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Re: Engine full of fuel and seized up
« Reply #75 on: October 06, 2020, 11:23:01 PM »
It is all down to workshop overheads. I used to turn the key in the workshop door on a Monday morning knowing that i would have to find £3,200 by the end of the week to pay staff, rent, rates, electric, phone bills, insurance, heating, water rates and many, many other bills and, that was back in the 90's. Would not even like to work out what it would cost to run a workshop with staff today .

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Re: Engine full of fuel and seized up
« Reply #76 on: October 07, 2020, 12:59:24 AM »
There used to be FRT times in the parts books, i seem to remember a 550 crank swop was 8.5 hours

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Re: Engine full of fuel and seized up
« Reply #77 on: October 07, 2020, 04:52:13 AM »
Your probably right. At something like £70 an hour that gives you around 9 hours to do the job. That's not an unreasonable amount of time for getting the engine out of a 750 and packing all the bits away safely. Just sounds like more than anyone would consider worth spending. You would really need to have no mechanical ability whatsoever to pay out £1330 just to get an engine in and out. After all that's the easy bit as it's just nuts and bolts, Triggers then going to do the hard bit with the rebuild. It would total more than the bikes worth surely.
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Re: Engine full of fuel and seized up
« Reply #78 on: October 07, 2020, 07:41:45 AM »
Just nuts, bolts and a hernia plus 2 boxes of elastoplast

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Re: Engine full of fuel and seized up
« Reply #79 on: October 07, 2020, 07:43:17 AM »
Forgot about that Bryan, the charge for the physiotherapy.
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Re: Engine full of fuel and seized up
« Reply #80 on: October 07, 2020, 07:45:55 AM »
Just nuts, bolts and a hernia plus 2 boxes of elastoplast
Plus a week of work with a bad back  :o :o
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Re: Engine full of fuel and seized up
« Reply #81 on: October 07, 2020, 07:46:59 AM »
Could it be the petrol caused something like a piece of the cam chain tensioner material to come off, or a bit of debris from the top end, and drop down into the gearbox? Again maybe that would be visible by removing the sump pan. On my 500 it was easy and an opportunity to remove sludge, check the strainer and put a new seal on. 🤞
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Re: Engine full of fuel and seized up
« Reply #82 on: October 07, 2020, 08:47:06 AM »
I have a friend who runs a small private medical practice, providing health services to companies. He says that every day that the nurses cannot travel and work in a company costs him £5,000.

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Re: Engine full of fuel and seized up
« Reply #83 on: October 07, 2020, 10:54:47 AM »
Just nuts, bolts and a hernia plus 2 boxes of elastoplast

Not just nuts and bolts Bryan. Lost count of how many frame bolts i have had to oxy out.
We used to charge £85 to fit a exchange engine in the 90's and some customers thought that was too expensive and decided to take the engine out themselves. Had a few customers that had dropped there engine off a trolley jack while trying to save money. Even had one macho man who, instead of coming into the workshop and asking for help to get this engine out of his car, decided that it was a good idea to take it out himself, dropped it, then fell over it and broke his nose when he hit the floor  :o 

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Re: Engine full of fuel and seized up
« Reply #84 on: October 07, 2020, 11:08:25 AM »
Just nuts, bolts and a hernia plus 2 boxes of elastoplast

Not just nuts and bolts Bryan. Lost count of how many frame bolts i have had to oxy out.
We used to charge £85 to fit a exchange engine in the 90's and some customers thought that was too expensive and decided to take the engine out themselves. Had a few customers that had dropped there engine off a trolley jack while trying to save money. Even had one macho man who, instead of coming into the workshop and asking for help to get this engine out of his car, decided that it was a good idea to take it out himself, dropped it, then fell over it and broke his nose when he hit the floor  :o
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Re: Engine full of fuel and seized up
« Reply #85 on: October 07, 2020, 02:02:56 PM »
Just trying to throw in a bit of light, or should that be heavy, humour.

We found that it was easier for just one, strong, person to lift from box to frame and then the "helper" to get involved from other side of bike, this was when we were allyounger, healthier, fitter? and of course a damn site stupider

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Re: Engine full of fuel and seized up
« Reply #86 on: October 07, 2020, 05:37:43 PM »
I have not tried this myself but they do make it look easy. Anyone tried to pull a 750 this way?

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Re: Engine full of fuel and seized up
« Reply #87 on: October 07, 2020, 05:49:48 PM »
Started the strip down. Nothing obvious in the sump.

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Re: Engine full of fuel and seized up
« Reply #88 on: October 07, 2020, 05:53:48 PM »
Was there any debris or bits the sump pan?
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Re: Engine full of fuel and seized up
« Reply #89 on: October 07, 2020, 06:20:46 PM »
No debris at all came out.

 

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