Ten years to go until electric...

[kevski]

Will not affect me I'll  have gone up in smoke at local crem by then. 👆👆

Via Electric, diesel or petrol?

[Green1]

Electric is coming weather you like it or not.
One of my customers is a major car dealer he sells almost everything new apart from Fiat and Ford and the posh Italian stuff.
His managers all drive Teslas.
I don't understand why so many people suffer from range anxiety when the average commute is less then a 30 mile round trip.

Vans will be more of an issue
My daily commute is normally around 100 and 130miles. Most electric cars can achive this now but I only drive vans and I will be sticking with Diesel until they manage to make a van that can achieve that with at least half a load on board.

I can't see vehicals with Tacho's being to much of an issue as they are forced to stop so that gives a chance for the batteries to be topped up.

The infrastructure is the largest obstical. At the moment manufacturers are all compeating with each other so they all have different chargers. Much like how phones were a few years ago until the chargers were all standerdized.

Tesla are planning to make the batteries easy to remove. Slide in slide out so they can be changed in seconds at a service station. This is how EV's must go to be viable.
In reality it should be quiker then stopping for fuel and queing waiting to pay.

Gas is also on the way out and Cremitoriums will be putting us all in large pressure pots and flushing us down the drains.
The only thing left will be pacemakers and Titanium joints for recycling.

[McCabe-Thiele (Ted)]

Will not affect me I'll  have gone up in smoke at local crem by then. 👆👆

Via Electric, diesel or petrol?

As Gas will also be gone ill go for the Zorastrian Option and let the birds have a feast.

[McCabe-Thiele (Ted)]

Maybe the time scale will be like the DAB radio switch over years late for switching off FM.

[Green1]

I should think fuel will be avalable until around 2045 ish if your lucky and then there just won't be the damand for it.

[Lobo]

We own an electric car. The BMW i3; and basically Mrs Lobo’s. I’m blown away by it, and reckon we’ll never buy an ICE again.
In Oz the charging infrastructure is poor, and this little BMW comes with an optional REX (range extender) which is basically a BMW 600cc Scooter engine in the boot / 9L fuel tank, which can be started to maintain battery charge. (It does not drive the wheels). We use it < 2/year; but it gives peace of mind and allows us to go anywhere as performance is not affected. (Elect range is 150 miles)
Every 2/3 days Karen plugs it into the garage, and at max rate it takes around 5 hrs to fully charge. (we have a level 2 charger... does around 7kW max: charging it off the 10A mains would take around 15hrs). We have 10kW of solar, so have no fuel bill ... result.
It is like a Scalelextric to drive, and with zero kerfuffle will have you first away from the lights every time.. and this is not even a sports model. The torque is amazing.

Honestly, I look under the bonnets of modern cars and cringe. Mentally I see just sh*t, and want to rip out the block, turbos, hoses, pumps, radiators, servos... all those endless heavy things that just cause grief. One word goes round in my head... WHY? 😂.
Servicing is minimal; basically limited to brake fluid changes... and oil change for the scooter engine! Tesla say (I think) that the brake pads are for life... these EVs, if driven correctly, just use regen braking. Certainly we rarely touch the brake pedal.

The battery is guaranteed for 8 years; too far way to worry yet.

Bottom line is it hinges around the ease of charging I guess; my sister has just bought the Kona EV and is comfortable driving Basingstoke - Norfolk .... with a top-up from a fast charger at destination. I guess the UK is getting a handle on it...

[Johnwebley]

I should think fuel will be avalable until around 2045 ish if your lucky and then there just won't be the damand for it.

I hope I am still riding then.

Just worked out I will be 95.


As for the bikes. Quite a few 100+ year old vehicles still running

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[Athame57]

Will not affect me I'll  have gone up in smoke at local crem by then. 👆👆

Via Electric, diesel or petrol?

What's wrong with a good old fashioned wood burner?

[Athame57]

[Rozabikes Tim]

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[Lobo]

...hey Tim, that’s my wife’s car!

[Rozabikes Tim]

...hey Tim, that’s my wife’s car!

Fair Dinkum mate!

[Bryanj]

Had a Lexus 450h for a year, well the wife has, 30mpg+ from a 3.5 V6aint bad and christ is it quick.

On an asside Boris has said houses by 2023 will be so snug they wont need boilers-----so then in summer you melt, have to get aircon and use 4 times the lecky!!!!

[taysidedragon]

This government hasn't met a single deadline yet, or the others before it. 2030 will get  delayed like everything else.
As already said, we don't have the recharging network, and certainly won't have enough charge points by 2030. Billions of pounds will get handed out to 'favoured' companies (don't get me started on minister's feathering their own nests!) and we'll end up with a pig's breakfast of a network at the end that doesn't do the job. 😣

The only things that will work for many people are self-charging hybrids or hydrogen cells. There's a farmer in Aberdeenshire running hydrogen on his tractors and one of his cars. Just put water in the tank to run it and clean emissions. It costs a bit to fit it at the moment but that will definitely come down significantly.

I regularly drive from Scotland to Wales, about 480 miles in a day. There is no way I'm charging an electric car for hours, once or even twice, on that journey. It wouldn't be practical at all.

[Rozabikes Tim]

This government hasn't met a single deadline yet,

Except for nest feathering you refer to which must be far exceded. Well done chaps.