Author Topic: The rebirth of Lazarus  (Read 24891 times)

Offline mickwinf

  • SOHC Master
  • Posts: 1748
    • View Profile
Re: The rebirth of Lazarus
« Reply #360 on: March 04, 2024, 12:55:01 PM »
I tried to check rectifier but not getting any readings, I do have a spare so will try that one. I hate electrics!
Love the 500 and 550 have a 500 called Lazarus under restoration

Offline taysidedragon

  • SOHC Master
  • Posts: 1335
    • View Profile
Re: The rebirth of Lazarus
« Reply #361 on: March 04, 2024, 01:03:21 PM »
Mick, if that doesn't do the trick do you have any electrical wizard mates nearby who can help?
Gareth

1977 CB400F
1965 T100SS

Offline royhall

  • SOHC Jedi
  • Posts: 3383
  • Keep biking I'm not quite bankrupt yet
    • View Profile
Re: The rebirth of Lazarus
« Reply #362 on: March 04, 2024, 02:01:49 PM »
Are you by any chance using a fully charged AGM battery. If you are, the charging probably won't cut in until the battery gets down to about 12.4 volts. Makes it look like the charging isn't working. There's a way of testing that explained in my CB750K5 restoration thread. Spent a whole day on mine pulling everything apart just to find there was nothing wrong in the first place.
« Last Edit: March 04, 2024, 02:03:35 PM by royhall »
Current bikes:
TriBsa CCM 350 Twin
Honda CB350F in Candy Bacchus Olive
Honda CB750F2 in Candy Apple Red
Triumph Trident 660 in Black/White
Triumph T100C
Suzuki GS1000HC
Honda CB450K0 Black Bomber
Honda CB750K5 in Planet Blue Metallic (Current Project)

Offline mickwinf

  • SOHC Master
  • Posts: 1748
    • View Profile
Re: The rebirth of Lazarus
« Reply #363 on: March 04, 2024, 03:34:16 PM »
hi Roy its a yuasa normal lead acid type battery. I am now looking for an idiots guide to using a multimeter, watch this space.
Love the 500 and 550 have a 500 called Lazarus under restoration

Offline Bryanj

  • Grogu
  • *
  • Posts: 10799
    • View Profile
Re: The rebirth of Lazarus
« Reply #364 on: March 04, 2024, 03:51:53 PM »
Mick, if you can wait till thurzday night (after 8) you can ring me on 07795162623 and i will explain it to you, especially if you have the rec and meter in your hands


That should read after 8, i hate dumfones!!!!!!
« Last Edit: March 04, 2024, 04:46:52 PM by Bryanj »

Offline royhall

  • SOHC Jedi
  • Posts: 3383
  • Keep biking I'm not quite bankrupt yet
    • View Profile
Re: The rebirth of Lazarus
« Reply #365 on: March 04, 2024, 04:34:57 PM »
It will still happen if your battery is fully charged even on a lead acid type.

Sent from my Pixel 7 Pro using Tapatalk

Current bikes:
TriBsa CCM 350 Twin
Honda CB350F in Candy Bacchus Olive
Honda CB750F2 in Candy Apple Red
Triumph Trident 660 in Black/White
Triumph T100C
Suzuki GS1000HC
Honda CB450K0 Black Bomber
Honda CB750K5 in Planet Blue Metallic (Current Project)

Offline mickwinf

  • SOHC Master
  • Posts: 1748
    • View Profile
Re: The rebirth of Lazarus
« Reply #366 on: March 04, 2024, 05:19:12 PM »
Thanks Bryan might take you up on that. Some progress with the rectifier, I didn't realise if it didn't read one way round one way try the other way round. This shows now as ok.
Love the 500 and 550 have a 500 called Lazarus under restoration

Offline mickwinf

  • SOHC Master
  • Posts: 1748
    • View Profile
Re: The rebirth of Lazarus
« Reply #367 on: March 06, 2024, 10:56:46 PM »
Looking again at alternator, the original one that came with the bike and the wires had been cut so put terminals on and extended wires to proper connector block. Thing is I dont get any readings at all at the multi connector but if i disconnect the wires at the joints I do get a result so maybe a faulty wire? The only spare I have also has the wires cut so no better. More investigation needed.
Love the 500 and 550 have a 500 called Lazarus under restoration

Offline Bryanj

  • Grogu
  • *
  • Posts: 10799
    • View Profile
Re: The rebirth of Lazarus
« Reply #368 on: March 06, 2024, 11:29:16 PM »
Did you scrape the varnish off the windings wire before you soldered?

Offline mickwinf

  • SOHC Master
  • Posts: 1748
    • View Profile
Re: The rebirth of Lazarus
« Reply #369 on: March 07, 2024, 08:47:45 AM »
I joined the wires under the sprocket cover
Love the 500 and 550 have a 500 called Lazarus under restoration

Offline Bryanj

  • Grogu
  • *
  • Posts: 10799
    • View Profile
Re: The rebirth of Lazarus
« Reply #370 on: March 07, 2024, 11:32:30 AM »
Go to Ash's emporium and look up the 3 phase charging system document that explains how the whole system works, plus ring me tonight and i will give you some testing to do

Offline mickwinf

  • SOHC Master
  • Posts: 1748
    • View Profile
Re: The rebirth of Lazarus
« Reply #371 on: March 09, 2024, 01:14:39 PM »
This morning I rechecked the connections and found a bad contact, sorted that then checked the voltage regulator which turned out to be ok, even tried a spare with no luck. the battery seems to hover around 11.5 volts when engine is running and does not increase with revs. rectifier tests out ok, again tried a spare with no change. not sure what to do next, any ideas?
Love the 500 and 550 have a 500 called Lazarus under restoration

Offline McCabe-Thiele (Ted)

  • Grogu
  • *
  • Posts: 6287
    • View Profile
Re: The rebirth of Lazarus
« Reply #372 on: March 09, 2024, 01:36:56 PM »
What is the voltage across the battery terminals with the ignition off?
Looks as if the alternator is not putting out any charge for it to drop to 11.5 volts when running.

I know now't about testing the alternator itself even after I have read the manual. In my case Impedence is a measure of my Ignorance.

Addendum:

I have had experience of electrical windings as in the coils/field windings absorbing damp and even recovering over time as they dry out. I know it's the often repeated mantra but good earthing & good electrical connections are a must.
« Last Edit: March 09, 2024, 01:40:37 PM by McCabe-Thiele (Ted) »
Honda CB500 K1 (new pit dug out ready)
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
Link to my full restoration http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html

Offline Seabeowner

  • SOHC Pro
  • Posts: 989
    • View Profile
Re: The rebirth of Lazarus
« Reply #373 on: March 09, 2024, 07:04:28 PM »
I've been lucky and all my rebuilds have charged fine. But your problem is not uncommon.
The goto in the US is Twotired.
Link to his post.
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=118474.0
Phil
1971  CB500K0  Candy Jade Green or Candy Gold
1973  CB500K1  Candy Ruby Red
1975  CB550F1   Shiny Orange
1978  CB550K     Excel Black

Offline Bryanj

  • Grogu
  • *
  • Posts: 10799
    • View Profile
Re: The rebirth of Lazarus
« Reply #374 on: March 09, 2024, 09:01:43 PM »
I am at work now and tomorrow night if you want to ring, after that not till next friday

 

SimplePortal 2.3.5 © 2008-2012, SimplePortal