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Re: CB550k1 US Import - UK registration
« Reply #420 on: February 19, 2023, 01:17:34 PM »
If you are going racing or want a daily commuter look for another, if its going to be used like most of us it will last for decades, seen worse running and left them in.
Dont forget if you get a new or reground you should replace or reface the rockers

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Re: CB550k1 US Import - UK registration
« Reply #421 on: February 19, 2023, 01:32:06 PM »
I would be looking at the appropriate rocker where that mark is  - looks like number 4 cylinder outside lobe? to see if there is any obvious corresponding wear.
I know little about what would have caused such a mark if it was a foreign object or a breakdown in the hardening from oil starvation.

As Bryan has said if the bike will be little used I think it would take decades for it to become a problem.


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Re: CB550k1 US Import - UK registration
« Reply #422 on: February 19, 2023, 02:02:58 PM »
Thanks guys, this is going to be a weekend / fair weather bike so will stick with the current shaft.

Rockers look decent, but there are marks on 2 and 3 exhaust rockers.


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Re: CB550k1 US Import - UK registration
« Reply #423 on: February 19, 2023, 02:04:01 PM »
See, told you I was no expert ;D ;D
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Re: CB550k1 US Import - UK registration
« Reply #424 on: February 19, 2023, 03:14:38 PM »
Check if the rocker shafts have oveled the holes in the cover

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Re: CB550k1 US Import - UK registration
« Reply #425 on: February 20, 2023, 06:46:29 AM »
Check if the rocker shafts have oveled the holes in the cover

Hi Bryan, could you clarify a bit? Not sure which holes to check 😋

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Re: CB550k1 US Import - UK registration
« Reply #426 on: February 20, 2023, 06:47:33 AM »
See, told you I was no expert ;D ;D

All good Roo, to be fair I was leaning the same way which is why I posted 😃👍

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Re: CB550k1 US Import - UK registration
« Reply #427 on: February 20, 2023, 07:27:56 AM »
The holes the rocker shafts go into, doesn’t usually happen on the 550 as the shafts are pegged and all one piece but on the 500 which doesn’t have them pegged and are in 2 pieces it’s been known for the shafts to spin and wear the holes in the camcover oval.
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Re: CB550k1 US Import - UK registration
« Reply #428 on: February 20, 2023, 07:28:46 AM »
There is a service bulletin about it in the 500 ones in alladins cave but what it is the rockers pivot on shafts in the cam cover and those shafts can spin wearing th e shaft holes in the cover oval allowing the tappet clearance to wander so slide the shafts out and check the cam cover, the later K3 covers had a mod with cotter pins holding the shafts

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Re: CB550k1 US Import - UK registration
« Reply #429 on: February 20, 2023, 09:07:23 AM »
My 550 F1 USA with engine number starting 112 still has the two piece shafts (one for each rocker arm) and no pegs. According to CMSNL parts list for USA 550 F1, change point was after 113 something. 

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« Reply #430 on: February 20, 2023, 10:03:03 AM »
Odd Ian as even the later 500 engines were changed to the single, longer type shaft but not pegged.

Clearly the fault didn’t rear it’s head in time for the change to be universal for the 550 engine.
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Re: CB550k1 US Import - UK registration
« Reply #431 on: February 20, 2023, 10:26:07 AM »
Ken,
After reading yours and Bryan's posts, at first I just thought that the immaculate (inside) cam cover i've just tidied up was perhaps a NOS one from a 500 - anything is possible in 47 years and probably multiple owners.  Then I did the check on CMSNL and found the change point and the fact that 8 shafts are needed.

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Re: CB550k1 US Import - UK registration
« Reply #432 on: February 20, 2023, 10:47:49 AM »
Thinking outside the box - with a bit of careful depth mic measuring, perhaps I could make a couple of copper or aluminium discs to fit on the end of the outermost shafts to have the 'o ringed' pegs on the outer covers push against the shafts to prevent rotation.  Returning to being sensible (rare, I know!) - I won't be riding up and down the M6 on a daily basis, so will probably not wear out the present setup!

Ian


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Re: CB550k1 US Import - UK registration
« Reply #433 on: February 20, 2023, 11:58:52 AM »
There was an alternative method of pegging the shafts Ian and that was to drill down under the circles where the pontefract cakes fitted and use a self tapper drilled into the shaft. Not ideal but better than nothing. Of course this was used on the longer type not the 4 shorter ones, the 500 changed the shafts to 4 long ones before the end of the run but they weren't pegged.
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Re: CB550k1 US Import - UK registration
« Reply #434 on: February 20, 2023, 12:29:09 PM »
I might have a look to see if a Thackray washer is available to fit in the space available - maybe there is no space anyway.

Ian

 

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