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Re: 400/4 build. Paused due to other commitments. But starting up again
« Reply #405 on: September 14, 2023, 09:50:42 AM »
Is your petrol tank in place yet as there might be clearance issues?
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Re: 400/4 build. Paused due to other commitments. But starting up again
« Reply #406 on: September 14, 2023, 09:59:11 AM »
Could be...not got that far yet!

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« Reply #407 on: September 14, 2023, 12:35:50 PM »
Could be...not got that far yet!

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He added even with poor compression it should fire & at least try to run.
« Last Edit: September 14, 2023, 01:20:38 PM by McCabe-Thiele (Ted) »
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Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
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Re: 400/4 build. Paused due to other commitments. But starting up again
« Reply #408 on: September 14, 2023, 02:46:18 PM »
Can you not alter the coils in order to get them to fit? Are the metal poles on the new coils too wide to sit in the recess? Or are they too long?
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Re: 400/4 build. Paused due to other commitments. But starting up again
« Reply #409 on: September 14, 2023, 02:56:42 PM »
Just a tad too wide to sit in the recess....I'll take some pics later.

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Re: 400/4 build. Paused due to other commitments. But starting up again
« Reply #410 on: September 14, 2023, 06:02:33 PM »
Enough metal on there to file them down to fit I’d say
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Re: 400/4 build. Paused due to other commitments. But starting up again
« Reply #411 on: September 14, 2023, 06:23:55 PM »
That's what I had to do juts used a cutter/saw, file etc to widen them up - no issues with clearing the petrol tank either.
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Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
Link to my full restoration http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
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Re: 400/4 build. Paused due to other commitments. But starting up again
« Reply #412 on: September 14, 2023, 06:57:15 PM »
Just about to say that....even with them as they the tank goes on fine...

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Re: 400/4 build. Paused due to other commitments. But starting up again
« Reply #413 on: September 14, 2023, 08:20:55 PM »
Pretty sure that will foul the tank - worth seeing then if it catches - the top of the flat steel section needs to be almost flush with the top of the mountings iirc.
Update: Just read it clears so great! 😁

Looking at your picture you have the yellow wire for cylinders 2 & 3 on the left - thats fine if you have the HT leads accordingly I believe convention is Blue on the left for 1 & 4.
« Last Edit: September 14, 2023, 08:30:02 PM by McCabe-Thiele (Ted) »
Honda CB500 K1 (new pit dug out ready)
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
Link to my full restoration http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151576.msg1731556.html#msg1731556

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Re: 400/4 build. Paused due to other commitments. But starting up again
« Reply #414 on: September 14, 2023, 09:02:55 PM »
In the garage now....yep - blue is 1&4 - not that i knew that but i had a 50 50 chance of getting that right!! - yep - tank is definately ok... gonna check for a sparking now on all of the plugs...

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Re: 400/4 build. Paused due to other commitments. But starting up again
« Reply #415 on: September 14, 2023, 09:16:14 PM »
Yep - the coils are working well, really good strong spark across all 4.....nice jolt up my right arm!

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Re: 400/4 build. Paused due to other commitments. But starting up again
« Reply #416 on: September 14, 2023, 09:40:15 PM »
Pretty sure that will foul the tank - worth seeing then if it catches - the top of the flat steel section needs to be almost flush with the top of the mountings iirc.
Update: Just read it clears so great! 😁

Looking at your picture you have the yellow wire for cylinders 2 & 3 on the left - thats fine if you have the HT leads accordingly I believe convention is Blue on the left for 1 & 4.

I've only ever seen Blue on the right, 1 & 4 Ted.

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Re: 400/4 build. Paused due to other commitments. But starting up again
« Reply #417 on: September 14, 2023, 09:45:22 PM »
Ive got the coils the other way round so it seems to match - i think....followed a video - really dont think ive got it right but, it did start....the header of cylinder 3 is cold - it starts and revs to about 3k and sits there until kill the ignition...so thats a little bit of a result....!

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Re: 400/4 build. Paused due to other commitments. But starting up again
« Reply #418 on: September 14, 2023, 09:55:19 PM »
So is it just one cold exhaust on number 3?
3 out of 4 is a good start
Have you checked number 3 plug is it wet.
Might be worth switching the leads to eliminate a poor HT connection or if you have a spare lead try it.

Or switch the leads for 2&3 see if the problem moves
« Last Edit: September 14, 2023, 10:06:02 PM by McCabe-Thiele (Ted) »
Honda CB500 K1 (new pit dug out ready)
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
Link to my full restoration http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151576.msg1731556.html#msg1731556

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Re: 400/4 build. Paused due to other commitments. But starting up again
« Reply #419 on: September 14, 2023, 10:11:58 PM »
Had to come back in as I've got an early start tomorrow I've got spare HT but no plugs to go in the coils....I'll be back in tomorrow night...and the weekend.

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