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Re: Teds new project a CB500 K1 circa 1972.
« Reply #240 on: October 15, 2022, 07:20:12 AM »
If you were clocked at 74.9 Roo, your Speedo must have been showing over 80?

One hopes they nicked all the 90+ lane three owners too.


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Re: Teds new project a CB500 K1 circa 1972.
« Reply #241 on: October 15, 2022, 07:24:55 AM »

And the second lane cruisers. When I rule the world, they be up against a wall and bang!

Glad it isn't just me ........ they are the worst - oblivious to everything and anyone

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« Reply #242 on: October 15, 2022, 09:10:34 AM »
Specially doing 45 in the roadworks and ignorining the extra large DAF in the mirrors

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Re: Teds new project a CB500 K1 circa 1972.
« Reply #243 on: October 15, 2022, 10:44:21 AM »
Ah the dreaded Centre Lane Owners Club.
Come the day of the revolution they will be first against the wall.
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Re: Teds new project a CB500 K1 circa 1972.
« Reply #244 on: October 15, 2022, 02:57:36 PM »
If you were clocked at 74.9 Roo, your Speedo must have been showing over 80?

One hopes they nicked all the 90+ lane three owners too.


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I generally set the cruise off the sat nav as the speedos are not that great in cars. It happens, my fault, bit of a sod mind :D

I aleays think its a waste getting them in the car and dont seem to mind so much when on the bike, always put it down to an occupational hazzard ;D
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Re: Teds new project a CB500 K1 circa 1972.
« Reply #245 on: October 15, 2022, 03:42:15 PM »
Come on Roo, you could have got it accurate at 74.8 tick tock tick tock.....waiting. aah now you've got it ! Or 85.3 or 91.6 in the outside lane to tidy things up a bit.

Or indeed 99.6 and just under automatic ban level  ;D

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« Reply #246 on: October 15, 2022, 03:48:31 PM »
Never had a decimalpoint beforeif I'm honest, they were obviously on three shredded wheat that day. If they're gonna start doing decimal points it completey takes the fun and guesswork out of the affair!

I repeat.........Miserable buggers ;D
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2002 VFR800 VTEC (The Beloved)
1977 CB400F (the last money pit!)
1998 Ducati 748\853 conversion(sold :()
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Re: Teds new project a CB500 K1 circa 1972.
« Reply #247 on: October 15, 2022, 04:55:11 PM »
What happened to the guide line of 10% accuracy in speedos, the Police always used to say we allow 10% so you should have been ok up to 77mph.
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Re: Teds new project a CB500 K1 circa 1972.
« Reply #248 on: October 15, 2022, 05:09:43 PM »
What happened to the guide line of 10% accuracy in speedos, the Police always used to say we allow 10% so you should have been ok up to 77mph.
A lot of Police forces, including here in Lincs have recently done away with, or are doing away with the 10% rule. If the speed limit is 30, they say that is the maximum speed and you should be under it anyway, not 10% over.
The 10% rule was only a recommendation anyway, which is fine if its a real Poice person that catches you but all these automatic speed trap cameras can't use their judgement.
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Re: Teds new project a CB500 K1 circa 1972.
« Reply #249 on: October 15, 2022, 05:20:42 PM »
The 10 % rule was written into the Construction & Use regulations decades ago - effectively saying a vehicles speedometer had to be accurate within 10 %. This you means you have to exceed the 30 mph limit by 3 mph to commit an offence.
What causes confusion is they have deducted the. 10% from the figure already. Similarly the drink drive limit is 35 milligrammes of alcohol per 100 ml of blood - but only prosecute at 40 or above - the exception might occur in the case of a fatal accident when you might blow 38 on the machine when in theory they could go for impairment due to  alcohol rather than over the prescribed limit.
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Re: Teds new project a CB500 K1 circa 1972.
« Reply #250 on: October 15, 2022, 05:41:16 PM »
C&U regs have been changed, or at least thats what they told me on my naughty boys course.
Used to be +or- 10% of actual speed but now is +0 to -10%.
Trucks with tachograph have to be within 2kph at anything over 20kph, which aint gonna happen when tyre wear can be 15mm

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« Reply #251 on: October 15, 2022, 05:49:51 PM »
Well, I'm not having  sense of humour failure about it just yet, I'll wait to see what the score is once I get home. I always go by the sat nav as surely being satalite monitored, info fed you woukd think it more accurate than a 15 year old VW T5 speedo? Accurate....Atomic clocks and gps ppositioning etc?.....No? OK then ::)


We'll see; like I say hopefully they'll take pity and let me sit through a day of dull slides, condesending lecturers and no fag breaks for the sum of £90 or whatever it is now. ;D
More than likely it'll be two months in a Gulag, a grand fine and a public stoning because Im not a convicted menace to society.  ;D
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Re: Teds new project a CB500 K1 circa 1972.
« Reply #252 on: October 15, 2022, 06:48:58 PM »
C&U regs have been changed, or at least thats what they told me on my naughty boys course.
Used to be +or- 10% of actual speed but now is +0 to -10%.
Trucks with tachograph have to be within 2kph at anything over 20kph, which aint gonna happen when tyre wear can be 15mm

The law makes it a clear as mud (see below) - when I last workded in Police Prosecutions in 1990 we worked on the 10% rule - then ACPO said differently on policy introducing zero tollerance via the back door. In reality most prosecutions ignored the ACPO decision & worked on the old 10% figure.  This avoided arguments over older cars that had speedometers that complied with previous Con & Use Regs.

Thing is if you pay the fixed penalty then the legality of speeding is never verified as you have admitted the offence when you pay the ticket or accept a Speed awareness course. It's not until until you engage the services of a Mr Loophole and plead not guilty at the Magistrates court that the truth emerges.


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The amended Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986 permits the use of speedometers that meet either the requirements of EC Council Directive 75/443 (as amended by Directive 97/39) or UNECE Regulation 39.[17]

The Motor Vehicles (Approval) Regulations 2001[18] permits single vehicles to be approved. As with the UNECE regulation and the EC Directives, the speedometer must never show an indicated speed less than the actual speed. However, it differs slightly from them in specifying that for all actual speeds between 25 mph and 70 mph (or the vehicles' maximum speed if it is lower than this), the indicated speed must not exceed 110% of the actual speed, plus 6.25 mph.

For example, if the vehicle is actually traveling at 50 mph, the speedometer must not show more than 61.25 mph or less than 50 mph.
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Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
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Re: Teds new project a CB500 K1 circa 1972.
« Reply #253 on: October 15, 2022, 07:05:47 PM »
Aparently in the print at the  bottom, it reads that if you want to contest it its Crown Court only and the cost deters most i should think. Ive done it, hands up, just dont ban me cos Im lovely really and need to ride my bike as it's a soul restorative measure against the brain addling condition I suffer with my diabetes.


Aoooooooouuuuuuwww,my diabetes! ::) ;D

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Mornings are the invention of the devil!

1977 CB550F (current money pit!!)
2002 VFR800 VTEC (The Beloved)
1977 CB400F (the last money pit!)
1998 Ducati 748\853 conversion(sold :()
1980 ish CB750KZ in a billion bits (need to get rid, anybody want one?))

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« Reply #254 on: October 15, 2022, 07:12:24 PM »

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