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Re: Teds new project a CB500 K0 version 0.5 circa 1972.
« Reply #495 on: July 02, 2023, 11:37:39 AM »
Parts book shows a self tapper screw.

Is it an important modification ?
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Re: Teds new project a CB500 K0 version 0.5 circa 1972.
« Reply #496 on: July 02, 2023, 12:23:27 PM »
It does say screw but it is a 6mm thread Ted not a self tapper, and yes that oil guide is necessary

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Re: Teds new project a CB500 K0 version 0.5 circa 1972.
« Reply #497 on: July 02, 2023, 05:50:42 PM »
It does say screw but it is a 6mm thread Ted not a self tapper, and yes that oil guide is necessary

Do you have a spare one perchance?
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Re: Teds new project a CB500 K0 version 0.5 circa 1972.
« Reply #498 on: July 02, 2023, 06:03:39 PM »
Possibly somewhere in the mess of my garage but god knows where and finding it is unlikely

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Re: Teds new project a CB500 K0 version 0.5 circa 1972.
« Reply #499 on: July 04, 2023, 04:37:08 PM »
Okay so today my Brother came over to help me lift the crank case unit into the frame.

Engine base unit went in easily, bottom front lower two bolts plus  long bolt at rear slotted into place to keep it stable.

I know the upper rear long mounting bolt has a spacer but it looks as though there should be a much shorter spacer between the clutch side of the engine & the rear frame hanger - just a guess there should be a thick washer/spacer something around the 10-12 mm mark?

The parts book & my Haynes Manual show a right hand distance piece (item 9 p/n50357-323-010) it looks very much bigger so was this for earlier frames/engines?

Just need to know what if anything I am looking for as if it is a 10mm spacer I should find it listed in my parts location spreadsheet. I suspect I might even have bought a SS one from Max that was months ago so it will be in an ultra safe place of new parts - contents not listed?  ::) ::) ::)



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Re: Teds new project a CB500 K0 version 0.5 circa 1972.
« Reply #500 on: July 04, 2023, 05:35:16 PM »
Nothing on the upper rear bolt except the spacer fitted on the left hand side between the crankcase and the frame. The hanger goes on the inside of the frame.

50357-323-010 is fitted on the left hand side of the lower bolt, again between the crankcase and the frame. Nothing else Ted, if there was you'd see it on the parts book diagrams.
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Re: Teds new project a CB500 K0 version 0.5 circa 1972.
« Reply #501 on: July 04, 2023, 07:05:29 PM »
Ken this is the parts manual showing what I am on about it's the lower rear long engine mounting bolt. Item 9.

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Re: Teds new project a CB500 K0 version 0.5 circa 1972.
« Reply #502 on: July 04, 2023, 07:22:07 PM »
Bottom bolt Ted, goes between the crankcase and that frame lug sticking off the frame. It's quite thick TBH, about 10-12 thick IIRC. Max does them in stainless.
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Re: Teds new project a CB500 K0 version 0.5 circa 1972.
« Reply #503 on: July 04, 2023, 08:50:32 PM »
In that case I have one methinks.
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Re: Teds new project a CB500 K0 version 0.5 circa 1972.
« Reply #504 on: July 04, 2023, 11:00:23 PM »
You should have, i put one in there, may even have been a nos one

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Re: Teds new project a CB500 K0 version 0.5 circa 1972.
« Reply #505 on: July 05, 2023, 06:53:30 AM »
Found it in as new condition Bryan.
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Re: Teds new project a CB500 K0 version 0.5 circa 1972.
« Reply #506 on: July 05, 2023, 09:22:43 AM »
I think you also have a stainless one somewhere

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Re: Teds new project a CB500 K0 version 0.5 circa 1972.
« Reply #507 on: July 05, 2023, 10:39:55 AM »
I think you also have a stainless one somewhere

So do I, I've found the top one, I have the axle ones plus the brake hub special bolt. Plenty of time to slip it in when I find it. As my build progresses I have fewer boxes to search.

I plan to do an audit of my parts boxes over the next few days to reflect what I have recently fitted as well as reduce some of the boxes. Good organisation saves time especially wasted time looking for things that might not exist.

Updated:- Found the SS bottom rear engine spacer. ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Teds new project a CB500 K0 version 0.5 circa 1972.
« Reply #508 on: July 05, 2023, 05:55:58 PM »
Bottom bolt Ted, goes between the crankcase and that frame lug sticking off the frame. It's quite thick TBH, about 10-12 thick IIRC. Max does them in stainless.

I'll own up I misread the picture in the parts book  -the rear tube where the stand pivot shaft is looks as though it was part of the spacer!
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Re: Teds new project a CB500 K0 version 0.5 circa 1972.
« Reply #509 on: July 17, 2023, 08:50:18 PM »
A little bit of progress today - I've fitted the pistons without drama.
 - no lost circlips.

Next up is fitting the block I'm okay with the pistons just need to work out how the cam chain tensioner fits first. I'm presently cleaning up the two oil restrictors in the ultra sound cleaner. I have the 4 cylinder bottom O- rings & bottom gasket at the ready.

In my head I do not fully understand the placing of the fixed blade the manual should help.
Any tips welcome.
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