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Offline McCabe-Thiele (Ted)

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500 seat hinge pin / bar 77103-313-000
« on: November 19, 2022, 05:09:25 PM »
Is anyone making these in stainless steel I can see loads of footrest pins but no seat pins for the 500 one of mine is missing.
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Re: 500 seat hinge pin / bar 77103-313-000
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2022, 07:35:57 PM »
This guy did do them Ted (these are for 400) but can't find them now - bought a set plus front and rear SS footrest pivot pins
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/295238333858?hash=item44bd9375a2:g:2ykAAOSw-NRidR-2
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Re: 500 seat hinge pin / bar 77103-313-000
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2022, 09:45:23 AM »
That part is originaly sl175 and is same as 350 four, is it one long pin through both pivots or two short ones, check the parts book for quantity mate

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Re: 500 seat hinge pin / bar 77103-313-000
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2022, 11:38:19 AM »
That part is originaly sl175 and is same as 350 four, is it one long pin through both pivots or two short ones, check the parts book for quantity mate

It is two pins in the book my seat had one pin & a bolt fitted instead.
Part shown as no longer available but I have found a source via philward in SS I just need to confirm the length I believe it is 35 mm?

Can someone confirm the length pleas as mine is not to hand.
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Re: 500 seat hinge pin / bar 77103-313-000
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2022, 11:42:45 AM »

It is two pins in the book my seat had one pin & a bolt fitted instead.
Part shown as no longer available but I have found a source via philward in SS I just need to confirm the length I believe it is 35 mm?

Can someone confirm the length pleas as mine is not to hand.

Ted

Both mine are 40mm overall length .... and they don't look too big

Simon

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Re: 500 seat hinge pin / bar 77103-313-000
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2022, 12:06:57 PM »
Thanks Simon.
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Re: 500 seat hinge pin / bar 77103-313-000
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2022, 02:16:33 PM »
I found Ted that whilst some claim the pins are correct for the seat hinge bar they are in fact just the same as the rear footrest pins. As such they rattle around inside the bar and frame. I would advise measuring the hole of the seat hinge bar and see about finding some that fit, even if it's an imperial size and not metric. If for instance a 1/4" pin would be closer, then fit that, no one will know and it avoids that horrible seat flapping around when open look caused by ill fitting pins. I seem to recall doing the exact same thing, buying them claiming they were correct and then finding in fact they weren't. I may even have redrilled the hinge bar to 1/4" to allow for that size pin, simple to do, you can do the same with the frame as well, most frames seem to get damaged in that area, the tubes get a little crushed. The metal is thick enough, just fit them with some grease this time, Honda fitted them dry and that allowed the hinge bar and frame to elongate due to friction etc as it opened, plus the OE pins rusted like hell. You most likely find the holes are not circular anymore, they are oval.

Just some advice, it's your bike, do with it as you will.
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Re: 500 seat hinge pin / bar 77103-313-000
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2022, 04:57:30 PM »
Thanks for the advice Ken.
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Re: 500 seat hinge pin / bar 77103-313-000
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2022, 05:53:29 PM »
Try fitting a rear footrest pin in there Ted, if it rattles around then the ones available on Ebay will do the same.
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