Electrifying our History

[Rozabikes Tim]

https://us7.campaign-archive.com/?e=8ff228b59c&u=76671c22dc36c302e733c731b&id=631bed6662

Quite tastefully done I think.

[SumpMagnet]

I actually like the look of that.

All too often the battery box looks out of place, but here they managed to get it to look like an oversized period tool box.

Hub motor, with the electrics in the side panels and the petrol tank is fairly standard, and the performance is fine for a commuter or town riding. Shame aboutht erange though.
I guess they went small on the battery box to get the look, and the range is the end result. 

[McCabe-Thiele (Ted)]

At least the braking will improve with regenerative braking

[Dave]

This is quite interesting also:

https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1430463

Maybe we will start seeing more of this kind of thing in the future?

[Sesman]

God I hope not. It’s not a classic then?

[andy120t]

Range 30-40miles..

But it still might best the Lucas electrics on a wet  night.

[Sesman]

Ahh Lucas F.A.D.E.😁

[taysidedragon]

Range 30-40miles..

But it still might best the Lucas electrics on a wet  night.

🤣🤣🤣

[Oddjob]

OMG really. I'd sooner walk or even worse, drive a car.

[paul G]

It's all Bo**Ox it's never going to be electric in the long term.
We lease a Citroen electric van similar size to a tranny.
From fully charged on a motorway we get roughly 80m before you need to recharge it, slighly more if you put it into economy mode.
This means NO heating, air con no nothing. So when I send the electricians out to site say Newcastle, they have to stop for 2 hours going and two hours on the return to charge it to 80%.
That means I have two electricians sat in services drinking coffee for 4 hours £200 and £70 to charge it 
Needless to say, we now hire a van and leave the electric crap at work for others to use it on short journeys and hire one.
Hydrogen is the way all the major car companies are going and investing millions into it.
Buy electric at your peril.

Edit, forgot to add we can't generate enough electric now ! what we going to do when everyone starts plugging their cars in at night 

[Johnny4428]

It's all Bo**Ox it's never going to be electric in the long term.
We lease a Citroen electric van similar size to a tranny.
From fully charged on a motorway we get roughly 80m before you need to recharge it, slighly more if you put it into economy mode.
This means NO heating, air con no nothing. So when I send the electricians out to site say Newcastle, they have to stop for 2 hours going and two hours on the return to charge it to 80%.
That means I have two electricians sat in services drinking coffee for 4 hours £200 and £70 to charge it 
Needless to say, we now hire a van and leave the electric crap at work for others to use it on short journeys and hire one.
Hydrogen is the way all the major car companies are going and investing millions into it.
Buy electric at your peril.

Edit, forgot to add we can't generate enough electric now ! what we going to do when everyone starts plugging their cars in at night 

I agree Paul, it’s shocking the reality. (no pun intended)
Inevitably road tax and charging will certainly increase on these vehicles too. Just not feasible. I think petrol and diesel will be around a while yet.

[Rozabikes Tim]

It's all Bo**Ox it's never going to be electric in the long term.
We lease a Citroen electric van similar size to a tranny.
From fully charged on a motorway we get roughly 80m before you need to recharge it, slighly more if you put it into economy mode.
This means NO heating, air con no nothing. So when I send the electricians out to site say Newcastle, they have to stop for 2 hours going and two hours on the return to charge it to 80%.
That means I have two electricians sat in services drinking coffee for 4 hours £200 and £70 to charge it 
Needless to say, we now hire a van and leave the electric crap at work for others to use it on short journeys and hire one.
Hydrogen is the way all the major car companies are going and investing millions into it.
Buy electric at your peril.

Edit, forgot to add we can't generate enough electric now ! what we going to do when everyone starts plugging their cars in at night 

Spot on.

I need to look at a new vehicle for work/ personal. For space and everything -  lwb Berlingo fits the bill. But now only available as electric / no petrol or diesel. Manufacturer claims 170m range but I think realistically 120-140. Ok most the time until you get the unplanned exception, so won't be going that route.

There is a hydrogen option of my Peugeot Expert current van (at least on the continent). How many uk hydrogen fillings stations in the UK? 11 and I understand some of them are closing.

With all these things you need a long term infrastructure plan so people will have confidence to change  to greener ways.

Going to sit tight and buy another diesel for now.

[Sesman]

Whether we like it or not…..it’s gonna happen. I don’t necessarily wholly agree with concept or objective, but we are missing the point. It’s about the introduction of a new market energy economy and that’s impossible if we rely on fossil fuels. It’s all about the money…as ever.

And as for plugging in at night, get yourself familiar with smart grid…it can actually work.

[Oddjob]

Also factor in that the Government intends to phase out cheap night rate electricity and suddenly that electric vehicle isn't so cheap anymore.

[paul G]

Whether we like it or not…..it’s gonna happen. I don’t necessarily wholly agree with concept or objective, but we are missing the point. It’s about the introduction of a new market energy economy and that’s impossible if we rely on fossil fuels. It’s all about the money…as ever.

And as for plugging in at night, get yourself familiar with smart grid…it can actually work.

No one is denying we have to go green but electric is not the answer.
Hydrogen will be the way forward which is why the car industry is investing millions into it.
We haven't got or ever will have the infrastructure to carry out the electric rout
The car industry were pushed down this rout by their relative governments.
Also have a look why most if not all new heating boilers are hydrogen compatible