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Re: It could only happen to us Boiler has shut down E110 I think
« Reply #60 on: March 24, 2024, 11:37:43 AM »
The obvious move is a combi in the attic as you wont have to climb loft ladders to get to it. It's your concrete floors that are the limiting factor. If you don't want want a combi (why wouldn't you) you could remove the expansion tank and fit a pressure vessel fill loop combination then you could use a standard heat only boiler (limited types available and pointless). Or you could use a heat only system boiler which is basically a combi without the hot water facility. The far easiest is the combi in the attic though. Gets rid of the cylinder and header tanks altogether and makes the fitment way easier. Plus any replacement later on are an easy combi swap. Most of your pipes will already be in the attic due to the concrete floors downstairs. You may need to re-run the gas supply in 22mm and install a drain.
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Re: It could only happen to us Boiler has shut down E110 I think
« Reply #61 on: March 24, 2024, 12:22:40 PM »
You could fit an Intergas Combi using the tank fed system. That would mitigate the mains pressure issue, which with the concrete floors is definitely a risk factor. We haven’t personally fitted one ourselves but I know other installers have used them in the same circumstances and have really rated them. My business partner is currently in the process of moving house and is seriously considering doing the same. If I’m honest I always dismissed the intergas boilers but having received some really positive feedback I would definitely consider them in the right circumstances, they are very different to a conventional Combi with very few mechanical parts to go wrong. So no personal experience to draw upon but might be worth some research?

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Re: It could only happen to us Boiler has shut down E110 I think
« Reply #62 on: March 24, 2024, 12:26:22 PM »
I had a talk with the Intergas sales rep at a demonstration at our suppliers recently and they do look impressive. Never fitted one myself though. Location could still be the big issue.

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Re: It could only happen to us Boiler has shut down E110 I think
« Reply #63 on: March 24, 2024, 01:30:11 PM »
Never heard of an Intergas Combi, I will do some research.

The main reason I kept a hot water tank was so I did not have to rely on the boiler for HW. At least on the days when the boiler has been out of action we could use the immersion.
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Re: It could only happen to us Boiler has shut down E110 I think
« Reply #64 on: March 24, 2024, 10:04:50 PM »
Ted I'm currently in the middle of renovating my uncles bungalow and he's in the process of replacing an almost new fitted in November baxi 400 heat only boiler for a combi. I can find out what he wants for it if you're interested?
I to live in a dorma bungalow and recently replaced an old crane caviller for a baxi 800 relocated to the loft. A modern combi takes up next to no room.
I think my crane boiler was funding Putin's war effort.
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Re: It could only happen to us Boiler has shut down E110 I think
« Reply #65 on: March 24, 2024, 10:11:06 PM »
Hey Mick, long time no see on here. Have you had any of your bikes out recently?
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Re: It could only happen to us Boiler has shut down E110 I think
« Reply #66 on: March 24, 2024, 10:14:08 PM »
Been crazy busy and still a bad back but managed to use the guzzi at lest once a week at the moment
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Re: It could only happen to us Boiler has shut down E110 I think
« Reply #67 on: March 25, 2024, 09:41:26 AM »
If you are thinking Ted of fully electric, there's some scope there although evaluation for your own preference and situation would be needed.

I grew up in 50s origin house, originally specified with solid fuel boiler in kitchen for hot water only, open fireplace in lounge and no other heating. Frost inside windows on North side in winter with lovely patterns too  :) that was my sister's bedroom  ;D

Very early 70s removed boiler and installed night storage heating, located off gas mains and so no option there to use anything else, hence choice.

Some consideration as they are not immediately responsive like a wet system,  with separate meter for variable tariff a part of the "modernisation" being promoted then .... the all electric age a ?  :)

Anyway, remember family conversation of parents and uncles etc as some had gas, baxi etc and memorable for our system having effectively, absolutely NIL maintenance and cost, attendant down time etc. Had large tank in airing cupboard, located centre of house with very low heat loss, heated with emersion also on night tariff, but with supplementary switching to demand IF ever needed to add heat during day for odd eventuality.
Remember the immersion being replaced a couple of times over about a 30 year time period, I eventuality swapped to new tank in early 2000s for my parents, stripped out old galv pipes for hot and  old distribution to Bath and kitchen.

You can get water electrical solutions for wet heating now https://www.tradeplumbing.co.uk/electric-boiler-heating-6kw-20400-btu-potterton-gold-94022004.html perhaps a consideration for your circumstances.

Electricity tariff available seems far more adaptive now with systems and suppliers facilitating E car charge through off peak demand smoothing giving advantages in energy cost.
Not as cheap as gas, but offset against gas maintenance, insurance and reliability etc, there's some potential balance to be had.

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Re: It could only happen to us Boiler has shut down E110 I think
« Reply #68 on: March 25, 2024, 12:14:03 PM »
Odly enough the mention of Immersion Heaters (IH)- when we moved into our current home in 1984 the IH was replaced when we had a new hot water tank as needed for fully pumped CH.
The new IH failed after 18 months with the next two failing after only 15 months. All top fitted long heaters, they all failed at the bottom tip of the element where it curves back. 4 IH's lasting about 5 years. Just fitted a shorter unit now in year 3.👍

PS We live in a relatively soft water area.
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Re: It could only happen to us Boiler has shut down E110 I think
« Reply #69 on: March 25, 2024, 07:05:37 PM »
I had the same growing up experience as K2-K6. Frost on widows, burst water pipes and cold lino. As I said we had storage heaters in 1970. Never had an issue with any (except a problem with a fan that one had) in the 37 years until he died.
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Re: It could only happen to us Boiler has shut down E110 I think
« Reply #70 on: March 25, 2024, 08:13:22 PM »
I still have crittle windows at mine and a coal fire at my dad's
Are you saying ice on the inside isn't the norm anymore? ;D We never have hot water as the immersion heater never gets turned on. If you want to relive your youth your welcome to pop in for a brew on a frosty day.
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Re: It could only happen to us Boiler has shut down E110 I think
« Reply #71 on: March 25, 2024, 09:09:00 PM »
You namby pambies, used to get snow on the inside window sill when i was a kid!

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Re: It could only happen to us Boiler has shut down E110 I think
« Reply #72 on: March 25, 2024, 09:12:20 PM »
Aye, and a farthings worth of tripe fa thy dinner.

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« Reply #73 on: March 25, 2024, 09:29:27 PM »
Nope cant stand tripe, food or verbal!

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Re: It could only happen to us Boiler has shut down E110 I think
« Reply #74 on: March 25, 2024, 11:55:55 PM »
My folks had Crittal windows in their bungalow with "Everest" secondary double glazing. Think 7-9" gap courtesy of deep window sills. Remember the original 1960s Everest advert by Ted Moult with the falling feather test? Solid fuel boiler by Potterton. Warmest room was the kitchen with an old AGA stove that also heated the HW.

With my heart condition I'm so nesh that my house runs at around the 75 -78 F mark all winter in the daytime. I turn it down overnight to 68 F. I do have a water bed running at 89 F in the winter. If our bedroom drops below 68 F I wake up with Angina.

Our house is so well insulated upstairs that aside from the towel rail in the bathroom we have the bedroom radiators off all the time. Downside is in the summer we have to have all the upstairs windows open as it's often over 80 F upstairs in the summer.
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