DS full aftermarket exhuast system for the 500

[McCabe-Thiele (Ted)]

I've checked the current price of the DS system it presently £1260 plus delivery - Not sure who makes them but at least with DS there is a returns option if it is not right.

Am I missing another suitable UK based supplier ?
I'm guessing they are probably all made by the same manufacturer, not sure I buy into the idea that DS gets all the seconds.

I'm not sure if it's worth buying now rather than in 6 months time - yes prices will rise but if the market demand falls discounts or a price freeze seems likely - DS shows 20 in stock so they are not Dodo eggs at the moment.

Any views or experiences of how well the fit is welcome.

[Johnwebley]

I think Wemoto do them as well

Cost difference likely to be negligible



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[AshimotoK0]

Also here ...but no idea what they are like. I think DS are the same as CMSNL... maybe that CMSNL supply to DS. Julie/Graham may know. I know that they are double-skinned which is a massive plus point compared with 400/4 ones which are not.

https://www.bussostore.com/products/marmitte-honda-replica-originali-cb500k0k1k2-four?fbclid=IwAR0a9uWP-n8gjFPDRg5rCTkXFCqvBKed9R-o4ow4YqSvhnDi0vMn9mx9pjc

[Laverda Dave]

I have never known DS to offer a discount Ted. He won't even drop a couple of quid off if you buy a lot of parts off him at shows!

[AshimotoK0]

I have never known DS to offer a discount Ted. He won't even drop a couple of quid off if you buy a lot of parts off him at shows!

See my reply to your quote here Dave  http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,27647.75.html

[K2-K6]

The time element of buying has been influenced on here by others experience of getting pipes delivered that varied in fit and alignment, some opting to return individual pipes after they felt the final fit wasn't up to scratch. 

If you buy early,  inspect well on arrival, but test fit may not be feasible unless you've got engine installed. Something to keep in mind on such a costly item.

[triplE675]

Back in March 2021 l  bought a full set of hm323's from DS and did the test fit due diligence Number 2 downpipe was not symmetrical or aligned with the other 3 pipes and stuck out like a saw thumb
I sent pictures back to DS and expected them to offer a replacement pipe .
I sent the set back because of this statement and got the refund
We cannot replace pipe 2 because every set is the same and defective
They had about 20 sets and even refused to replace the whole set .
Later in 2021 I noticed they had reduced the price
 l wonder why
Buyer Beware

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[triplE675]

Forgot to send photos

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[Bryanj]

It was because of the one pipe defect that Honda stopped producing exhausts, decided it wasnt worth another jig. Same happened with 350 four which is why they dissapeared as well

[Orcade-Ian]

That really is poor,
With relatively modern equipment and I'm not talking lasers and CNC, it can't be difficult to reproduce  bends with almost millimetre accuracy.  Using an original pipe, an accurate jig should be in the expertise of these aftermarket folk.  Perhaps the old skills have disappeared?  When I went recently to the Classic show at the NEC, I was really impressed by the number of companies employing 'reverse engineering' to reproduce unobtainable parts for some quite mundane vehicles.  Perhaps our bikes are just too small in volume to make it worthwhile?

Ian

[Oddjob]

Considering the repro pipes are supposed to be made on the same presses that made the originals it makes you wonder how it can be misaligned. Oddly I have an original No1 & No2 exhaust that I found in the shed, I'd filled them with old oil 40 odd years ago and they are really good, you could have test fitted a genuine No2 pipe to see the difference.

I have a set bought from CMS in 2020? that are still boxed, I'm hoping mine look ok when fitted, I have checked them out and they are perfect but it's the fitting that proves whether they are or not.

[Oddjob]

I may dig out the CMS replica No2 exhaust and do a comparison and see if the bend looks the same or not.

[triplE675]

I
My 1st K0 with original pipes was the benchmark + mates bike with DS pipes from 10 years ago .
IWarnout Jigs and fixtures for sure

Has anybody tried the Italian Busso pipes?

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[Nurse Julie]

The set fitted to Kitty, my K1 came from CMS.
They fitted very easily and all the down pipes line up spot on. Excuse any dirt, she hasn't had a wash since I took her out last ☺️☺️☺️

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[Orcade-Ian]

They do look good quality Julie and as you say, they line up very well.  They are double skinned headers then?
Hope you don't leave tyre marks on that Kitchen floor 

Ian