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CB550k3 Rear hub movement
« on: February 08, 2023, 12:46:44 PM »
I seem to have a fair bit of movement in the rear hub. The wheel has just been rebuilt and is off the bike but whilst I was bolting the sprocket back on I noticed that the flange lifts 3 or 4 mm out of its housing - is this normal? If not, any ideas what may be causing it.

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Re: CB550k3 Rear hub movement
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2023, 12:58:12 PM »
Check to see if the sprocket carrier is worn on the in side  ;)

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Re: CB550k3 Rear hub movement
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2023, 03:44:41 PM »
Sprocket carrier looks fine but it has been so well cleaned that you probably wouldn't see signs of wear. I have taken photos but the files are too big to share.
I did notice that the retaining ring sits a few mm proud of the flange - could it be that the bearing isn't seated deep enough?

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Re: CB550k3 Rear hub movement
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2023, 03:48:56 PM »
Im sure ring should screw down tight so someting is not right

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Re: CB550k3 Rear hub movement
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2023, 04:29:05 PM »
This is the flange. The grooves on the inside are deep and full - I can’t see any signs of wear.

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Re: CB550k3 Rear hub movement
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2023, 04:30:57 PM »
Sprocket carrier looks fine but it has been so well cleaned that you probably wouldn't see signs of wear. I have taken photos but the files are too big to share.
I did notice that the retaining ring sits a few mm proud of the flange - could it be that the bearing isn't seated deep enough?
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Re: CB550k3 Rear hub movement
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2023, 04:56:30 PM »
Did you remember the spacer inside the left hand bearing in the hub? See if you can drive the left hand bearing in a little more whilst making sure the inner spacer that goes between the 2 bearings remains straight. I seem to recall if the bearing isn't fully home it makes the retainer sit proud and thus the carrier isn't tightened down enough.
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Re: CB550k3 Rear hub movement
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2023, 06:53:25 PM »
Is there a lip at the far end of the carrier.
Also make sure it is pushed on firmly over the D ring. And greased.
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Re: CB550k3 Rear hub movement
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2023, 07:26:47 PM »
Thanks for all of the advice. I'm going to try to have another look at it before the weekend and will let you know how it goes

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Re: CB550k3 Rear hub movement
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2023, 07:55:44 PM »
Im sure ring should screw down tight so someting is not right
There are many CB500/550s around where the ring is not down tight. This doesn't need to be a reason for concern. Bearing should be fully down though. That's easy to check. On assembly the sound will tell you. If then the retainer does not go fully down, it's because the bearing - probably an aftermarket product, is not a 100% identical to the OEM one.

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Re: CB550k3 Rear hub movement
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2023, 11:58:14 PM »
Actually DR I'd say it is a cause for concern as if it's not right the sprocket won't align with the chain, doesn't take much misalignment for it to chew up the side links. It's supposed to sit flush, if it doesn't something is wrong. The D ring BTW is supposed to sit with the flat side up, see if that's right Bookmark and try and drive that bearing down a bit further. What size bearing is fitted? Just so we can see if it's the right number.

Make sure the carrier ring and the hub side area are well greased.
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Re: CB550k3 Rear hub movement
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2023, 08:27:03 AM »
The sound will tell you when you've driven the bearing all the way down. I often wondered why you sometimes will not be able to tight the retainer all the way down. But... often double side sealed bearings are used to replace the OEM ones. Could that be the cause?

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Re: CB550k3 Rear hub movement
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2023, 08:29:16 AM »
The wheel bearings came from David Silver. The left one was an original part and the right one was an OEM part.

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Re: CB550k3 Rear hub movement
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2023, 11:38:43 AM »
Double seal or single or none, so long as it’s the right number they should all fit.

I never buy genuine bearings these days unless they are special ones like the gearbox, I do tend the however buy the same make, Koyo for Koyo for instance, same exact bearing for less than half the price generally.

Have you tried the bearing in the hub without fitting the sprocket carrier?
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Re: CB550k3 Rear hub movement
« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2023, 06:28:55 PM »
The D ring BTW is supposed to sit with the flat side up, see if that's right Bookmark and try and drive that bearing down a bit further

Make sure the carrier ring and the hub side area are well greased.
Didn't we have that discussion a while back and consensus was that it is flat side to the hub.
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