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Disc drilling pattern, thoughts.
« on: March 16, 2023, 07:33:55 PM »
Fancied a drilled and slotted pair of discs for my 500 but can't find someone to do it. So after looking around I found someone who will do both discs for £58 approx and for another £10 will match a pic of another pattern if you find one he doesn't do.

So I spotted this pattern on ebay for cast discs and thought it looked ok. What do you think? Sent it to the fella who's doing the job and he reckoned he'd need another box of 5mm holes  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Disc drilling pattern, thoughts.
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2023, 07:45:41 PM »
Do you want to lighten them,or improve braking in the wet and dry?

My thought are there are to many holes,

It will reduce the friction area of pad/disc,

Could increase the lever pressure needed to stop,


I would also slot the outer holes, so in the wet the water will centrifuge out



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Re: Disc drilling pattern, thoughts.
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2023, 07:57:21 PM »
Wet weather improvement John.

Still plenty of metal left for pad contact I'd have thought John, plus I'm adding a second disc so there should be a big improvement over the standard one.

Not a great lover of drillings which have just a few holes and getting stainless discs slotted isn't easy to source, been looking for a while now. Thought I'd found someone until I mentioned they were stainless and they said no.
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« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2023, 08:13:31 PM »
Ahem….

I have no idea if this is wrong or right…but it works.

As for weight saving…forget it. It just doesn’t make a meaningful performance difference.


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« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2023, 08:18:04 PM »
Incidentally all those holes where drilled using a single 5mm drill. And no, they are not countersunk. I’’ll try to get the drill details.

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Re: Disc drilling pattern, thoughts.
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2023, 08:18:20 PM »
I feel those holes are fine as there's such a surplus of material on these disc.

Take the point John makes about slots taking water to the edge. Years ago we slotted quite a few, mostly rear on 750 F1 and Kawasaki as they came in, gave better initial response and clear grit from making score lines in disc. That was either with a bull nosed slot mill (U shape into disc face) to leave sharp edges to clean the pads. A friend still has his one on rear of F2 we did, three slots on each side. Can also use a roller mill with narrow "trench" cutter, again with rounded profile to make exactly the same U profile.

Slotting is still used on some motorsport applications, especially rally as it does keep the pads and surface from getting so influenced by gravel etc.

Can't see a problem with 5mm holes, much larger they "sizzle" as you lightly apply them, even then they work well.

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Re: Disc drilling pattern, thoughts.
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2023, 08:19:46 PM »
‘Twas a cobalt drill, but from where I sourced it I can’t recall.

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« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2023, 08:26:41 PM »
My reply to Ken, we overlapped there when replying  :)

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« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2023, 08:27:52 PM »
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« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2023, 08:37:48 PM »
I don’t mind a drilled disc and have done both the 400 and the 550, love it but I think that pattern is a bit busy TBH. I made my own patterns and applied directly and drilled them myself. Not that much of a hassle as so long as you’ve plenty of cutting fluid on it. It’s quite satisfying


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« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2023, 09:10:18 PM »
My pattern is better than yours so there.🥲

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« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2023, 09:31:58 PM »
Nah, can’t be…….

I used reference points drawn on a roll of masking tape to get the correct radius and be able to replicate it easily. Just strip off tape until you get the curve where you want it,  pair of compass’s a fat coffee and Planet Rock on the radio and  yer away.

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« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2023, 09:36:47 PM »
Hang in there Roo. It will all be worth it in the end.

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« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2023, 09:44:03 PM »
And at least for short while you will be the king ‘gurner’.

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« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2023, 09:51:39 PM »
See you next Tuesday !!!

But you get my drift? Bet you were chuckling into yer malt looking for that?

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