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Offline Laverdaroo

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Timing advance
« on: May 09, 2023, 09:04:37 PM »
Evening all, working on the 400 tonight getting it ready for the road and knowing I had to set the timing etc I set about it.

I’m having a real faff getting the test light to come on anytime before the T mark on rear plate, it simply won’t advance anymore. Any ideas?
Valves, done, cam chain, done. Points, done, just can’t get it timed. Any thoughts on my stupidity?


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Re: Timing advance
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2023, 09:05:51 PM »

 The test light only just lights up here and I’m on full advance with no room left on the sliders……..


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Re: Timing advance
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2023, 09:09:21 PM »
Disregard all of this post, I’m following the wrong marks like a div!

Apologies, as you were!


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Re: Timing advance
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2023, 09:22:10 PM »
I'm saying nothing, thinking it though  :D :D :D :D :D
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Re: Timing advance
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2023, 09:24:25 PM »
Sitting front of it now and I still can’t get me suede round it. The light just flickers on at that point but nowhere else will it light up over the full adjustment. Come on, put me out my misery Ken, there’s a good man.


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Re: Timing advance
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2023, 09:26:17 PM »
See


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Re: Timing advance
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2023, 09:28:48 PM »
Are you saying it times on 1-4 but won't on 2-3?

If so reduce the point gap.
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Re: Timing advance
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2023, 09:33:09 PM »
Sorry Roo I thought the static timing was the easy  bit just follow the manual have you got it so the points with the blue wires are to the coil that is connected to 1&4?😁😁😁
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Re: Timing advance
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2023, 09:37:12 PM »
Roo your setting the 1-4 points in that pic, the crank turns clockwise, so by turning the backplate clockwise you are delaying the timing, turn the plate the other way and check again.
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Re: Timing advance
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2023, 09:38:47 PM »
The buggers been running

Just bring a real pig but just whipped 1-4 points off and although they might have been set at the front they very much weren’t at the back

That’s not good. Fiddling, will report back….


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Re: Timing advance
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2023, 09:40:57 PM »
They don't look like TEC points to me.
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Re: Timing advance
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2023, 09:42:25 PM »

Apparently so????


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Re: Timing advance
« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2023, 09:45:11 PM »
They were bent well out of shape so flexed em back to a right angle and it’s squared the faces back together. I’ll set the gaps again and have another bash…….


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Re: Timing advance
« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2023, 10:23:19 PM »
Bent that back round, sorted it straight away. God knows how that got knackered light that but straightening it has sorted it, happy days. Attention to detail wins against head scratching wins again


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Re: Timing advance
« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2023, 11:42:30 PM »
Roo, next time you are up i have some japanese made points i imported you can have a pair chep, no budgie jokes please
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