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Offline SteveW

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Steel sheds / garages
« on: June 29, 2023, 09:51:26 PM »
Anyone got one, need more bike storage.
Just wondered if you get condensation on the inside because the walls are so thin.
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Re: Steel sheds / garages
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2023, 10:06:53 PM »
Been there, done that and yes, like you don’t know! They get really wet.


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« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2023, 10:09:33 PM »
Build a plywood hut, possibly cheaper and at least you can insulate the inside as much as you feel required depending on where you are and know it’s good for the winter. A good floor is quite important too, not just concrete, a wood layer helps enormously.
Or just get another shed


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Re: Steel sheds / garages
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2023, 10:10:53 PM »
Thanks, thought as much.
Wooden shed it is.
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« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2023, 04:10:31 PM »
Check out Facebook Marketplace and E Bay for second hand sheds....there are always plenty for sale.....they just want them dismantling and shifting sharpish as they have building plans afoot. Of course you have to dismantle them and transport them but with a couple of mates, and a Saturday or Sunday, you can save a lot of dosh. You can always cut them into manageable sections for transport and speed of dismantling (a Corded or Cordless Circular Saw is just the job) and you can strengthen the whole assembly again when you install it later.

S/H Sectional Concrete Garages are cheap as chips because they are a swine to transport and/ or they have Asbestos Roofs.......but if you have suitable transport and they are near your location, they are worth considering. I have a 20' X 10' Sectional - it was here when I bought this house (it has an asbestos Roof but its in good condition) and its just the job for me.

My only foray into Steel Sheds was many years ago and doing it on my own was a nightmare in December....and when it was finally assembled my blo*dy, ef*ing Dog would never go in it ! My TA Landrover hardtop was a pain in the rain as it was like somebody drumming on the outside of the roof and on one Exercise in Germany we had a 'carpet' of flies made their home on the inside of the hardtop ! Once bit, twice shy !

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Re: Steel sheds / garages
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2023, 08:50:33 PM »
I've an eight by six foot steel shed erected 20 years ago. Came with a warning sticker that if expecting more than eight foot of snow to add additional bracing!
After the first year of having awful condensation, bought a huge can of anti condesation paint and have had no issues since.

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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2023, 08:59:47 PM »
I've an eight by six foot steel shed erected 20 years ago. Came with a warning sticker that if expecting more than eight foot of snow to add additional bracing!
After the first year of having awful condensation, bought a huge can of anti condesation paint and have had no issues since.


I was t even aware there was such a thing as anti condensation paint??


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Re: Steel sheds / garages
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2023, 09:31:41 PM »
Anti Condensation Paint contains a number of tiny hollow glass beads that reflect thermal energy away from the walls. By effectively repelling warm air back into the room, the paint prevents moisture from forming on the walls and causing damp issues and mould growth.

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Re: Steel sheds / garages
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2023, 11:53:07 PM »
Nope never heard of it
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Offline Matt_Harrington

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Re: Steel sheds / garages
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2023, 09:58:40 AM »
Never heard of it either.  :o
Of course, if the air is dry then you won't get condensation  ;) . My previous shed I built was lined in rockwool/celatex and OSB and It was excellent. Now I use a dehumidifier (dessicant type as this works down to almost zero degC)
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« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2023, 06:48:56 PM »
Used some on my daughters bathroom (wet room) ceiling and walls, and it does work though it's horrible to apply.

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Re: Steel sheds / garages
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2023, 11:16:33 PM »
Never heard of it either.  :o
Of course, if the air is dry then you won't get condensation  ;) . My previous shed I built was lined in rockwool/celatex and OSB and It was excellent. Now I use a dehumidifier (dessicant type as this works down to almost zero degC)

I did exactly the same to my garage Matt. It's a pre-cast Compton garage. I used 50mm celatex on the floor as well after making up joists using 50x50 pressure treated timber at 200mm centres with 18mm marine ply over the top and then 10mn interlocking tiles on top of the ply. It made a massive difference, no condensation or damp whatsoever. I used to run the dessicant type dehumidifier in the winter but that stopped last year when even on the lowest setting it was costing 12p/hour to run. I wrapped the bikes up in vac bags last winter and no issues at all (apart from getting the bikes into the bags!). I replaced the corrugated cement roof when it cracked. I replaced it with metal profile insulated sheets from a company called Steadmans. I wanted to build a block garage but the council refused me permission but allowed me to build a concrete pre-cast the same size saying it was classed as temporary, I erected it 27 years ago, hardly temporary!
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Re: Steel sheds / garages
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2023, 09:28:46 AM »
Dave, how durable are the Vac-Bags? Always thought these would be good for longer term storage etc
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Re: Steel sheds / garages
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2023, 10:14:16 AM »
Are Vac Bags expensive?
How do you create the Vacuum?
Are they re- useable?
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Re: Steel sheds / garages
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2023, 10:23:52 AM »
Are Vac Bags expensive?
How do you create the Vacuum?
Are they re- useable?
Not too expensive and with a vacuum cleaner  ;)
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