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Painting Cylinder Blocks - best methods?
« on: July 09, 2023, 01:10:29 PM »
My recently rebored cylinder block has been cleaned up externally with Petrol then thinners with some wire brushing to remove loose paint etc.

I think I gave it a coat of spray paint a few moths ago honestly can't remember - clearly not properly as when the block is inverted the fins do not look as though any fresh paint has reached them.

My first thought was it might be best to use a small brush and hand paint all the fins on both sides before applying a spray finish - obviously hard to spray far enough inside without applying too much paint to the outer edges.

Not going to go down the Ceracoat type route  - any painting tips welcome.

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Re: Painting Cylinder Blocks - best methods?
« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2023, 05:46:08 PM »
Try Simoniz silver paint SIMVHT31D

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/370978213486


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« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2023, 06:07:32 PM »
Try Simoniz silver paint SIMVHT31D

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/370978213486

I have Simoniz paint that but it does not really want to spray inside the fins very well - might be holding the can too far away - I might just spray some into the cap then brush it in first.
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Re: Painting Cylinder Blocks - best methods?
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2023, 10:35:36 AM »
Ted, I'm not sure you could do this but there are some nozzles on spray cans that seem to be a little more professional and will spray in a fan and thus you may get in between the fins. The end of the nozzle can turn and so you can spray horizontally of vertically relative to the orientation of the can. I wonder if you could fit this nozzle to the Simoniz can?
https://refinishsystems.com/product/monofil-aerosol-spray-heads-pack-of-12/
You should be able to get them near you.
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Re: Painting Cylinder Blocks - best methods?
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2023, 11:04:08 AM »
Thanks Matt - I have a few odd similar spray cap heads around I will see if one fits - certainly sounds a good idea.
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Re: Painting Cylinder Blocks - best methods?
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2023, 02:26:43 PM »
Try Simoniz silver paint SIMVHT31D

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/370978213486

I have Simoniz paint that but it does not really want to spray inside the fins very well - might be holding the can too far away - I might just spray some into the cap then brush it in first.

Never had a problem spraying the fins in silver or black  ;)

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Re: Painting Cylinder Blocks - best methods?
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2023, 05:21:08 PM »
Just to help me at a later stage with my next project, how many cans of the silver paint would I need to buy to spray the complete engine, obviously it will all be separate parts not a single lump!
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Re: Painting Cylinder Blocks - best methods?
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2023, 05:35:56 PM »
I used three on my 400 with quite a bit left over in the almost empty cans that when they started to splutter I used for brushing some bits as required.
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Re: Painting Cylinder Blocks - best methods?
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2023, 06:20:51 PM »
Thanks Ted.
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Re: Painting Cylinder Blocks - best methods?
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2023, 08:16:40 PM »
My advice ... get yourself some Duplicolor DE1615 with ceramic  .. that's what all of the guys and me on the US site use. Very close to original Honda shade. Hard to get hold of but worth the effort IMHO

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Re: Painting Cylinder Blocks - best methods?
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2023, 07:21:32 AM »
My advice ... get yourself some Duplicolor DE1615 with ceramic  .. that's what all of the guys and me on the US site use. Very close to original Honda shade. Hard to get hold of but worth the effort IMHO

That is only because they can't buy Simoniz in the USA.  ;)

Duplicolor in the UK, just comes listed in a different can from the same company >> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/381711488367?epid=1423095885&hash=item58dfc7156f:g:zMkAAOSwCORe60v8&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwNXxaH58ckYLTjrQj%2FXQyAIRFNxT4yjuJiA5dzhSi0LSNrn9Jz1DF7xD2Fpxq%2FhgE2rBF0lPxJGF8gSuZYr5Aji0%2FNwUU4jrhrBtsZUTl3pA8Ww4W%2BQYznCcb9obhkZXdwcPhIcbtmw1NQVVZvY6ErlYZvibzH1ZgVQei1tRqTB0HjP3sbo%2FVDunRHCEhkIuOmMC7UyeKiXCv42%2FfihtqsRCasXySzaq6z9LoiyUxUiR2%2B17M%2BO486bI7UB5R62ksw%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR-CutbmoYg

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Re: Painting Cylinder Blocks - best methods?
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2023, 08:09:33 AM »
I reckon it must be really difficult to see the underside of the fins when the engine is  mounted. Maybe That’s why spraying the block sitting horizontally is what people settle for since the main function if the paint us cosmetic.
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