Roo's Viffer

[Moorey]

Just got back off holiday and seen this.   
What exactly is your state of play now Roo.

[Laverdaroo]

I’ve managed to buy a second hand head complete off a 23k bike that’s being broken due to a front end crash.
The cost of a timesert and or helicoil which I would never trust in a spark plug hole, (I know they’re ok but it would always be in my mind) plus the crazy price of gaskets would send the repair out of reach at the min at around £200.

The head was £40 delivered!……..no brainer

I have to take the swingarm off, electrics, hoses, the lot and drop the motor to allow access which I’m not looking forward to but planning on swapping heads providing the new one checks out.

Currently chasing head gasket specs and part numbers, they’re not only dear but hard to find even when you have identified which one of the 11 listed you need…….


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[Moorey]

Is the bike now back home

[Laverdaroo]

Yeah, tucked up in the shed while I prepare and research….


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[Trigger]

I’ve managed to buy a second hand head complete off a 23k bike that’s being broken due to a front end crash.
The cost of a timesert and or helicoil which I would never trust in a spark plug hole, (I know they’re ok but it would always be in my mind) plus the crazy price of gaskets would send the repair out of reach at the min at around £200.

The head was £40 delivered!……..no brainer

I have to take the swingarm off, electrics, hoses, the lot and drop the motor to allow access which I’m not looking forward to but planning on swapping heads providing the new one checks out.

Currently chasing head gasket specs and part numbers, they’re not only dear but hard to find even when you have identified which one of the 11 listed you need…….


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You are over thinking this too much  I have done thousands on inserts on spark plug threads over the years and never known one to fail.
If it is a hard to get to cylinder , just pop the engine out and take it to a old school engineering shop. They should charge about £50 to do the job.
Any good engineer will know to turn over the engine until the inlet valve is closed, attach a vacuum to the exhaust port and have the job done in 15 minutes 

If any engineer wants to use a Helicoil, then don't use them as, a helicoil is only good on blind threads or a thread that is never going to be removed for servicing .

[Laverdaroo]

All well and good but not the case and there aren’t any ‘old school’ engineers where I am that are willing to go near it for less than £65-80 Not over thinking anything, just being realistic with what’s available Graham. As stated, far easier and cheaper to replace the head which is what’s happening, pig of a job and a far reach from the simple SOHC lump hence the research and prep required, not to mention the space required to remove, clean and store everything once it’s off the bike.


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[Matt_Harrington]

Roo, is the engine injection? If So, there is a mass of 'stuff' connected to it and I can understand your trepidation. Let me know if you need the tea brewing!

[Laverdaroo]

Yeah it’s injected and the wiring associated is mental. I’ll put a piccy up of her with no clothes on, they really couldn’t have crammed anything else under there. You’ll understand when you see it. Hoping to rip into it later this week once I’ve cleared the decks a bit.


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[Matt_Harrington]

I do hope you meant the bike and not yourself!! 

[K2-K6]

Reminder......order pallet of Digestive biscuits 

[Laverdaroo]

Ordered!………. Bourbons


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[K2-K6]

Oooooh, look at that with a pre revolutionary biscuit of french royalty 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Bourbon

In this house we have, respectively, the Queen, Prince and Princess of Bourbon, in the great biscuit debates . Me, rather partial to a Scottish biscuit in opposition.

Though I can understand another type of Bourbon late into the night when you look at all those pieces of VF strewn all over 

[McCabe-Thiele (Ted)]

I'm a Ginger Nut fan - I was raised on McVities but pretty much any brand will do - only has to pass the dunking test - if it falls into my Coffee before exiting the cup then it's a fail.

Make sure you take plenty of pics Roo for the wiring routes - if it's anything like modern cars the wiring connectors are pretty much impossible to fit incorrectly - beware you do not snap off any of the connector clips they are difficult to replace - some are a bit of a Rubik's Cube to release plus heat makes them brittle.

[Moorey]

Yeah, tucked up in the shed while I prepare and research….


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 Ok if your sorted. I was a little late to the party sorry.

[Laverdaroo]

Give over, don’t apologise, this is my cock up bless yer

It’s gonna be a right task but it’ll be done. Waiting eagerly for the replacement head to show up.


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