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« Reply #195 on: September 05, 2023, 05:22:59 PM »
Hey bud, no not yet, stripped it back down to investigate but going out there tonight to prod about. I’ll report later


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« Reply #196 on: September 05, 2023, 05:34:21 PM »
Does your missus know your prodding stuff down in the shed???
Kids in a the back seat cause accidents.
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« Reply #197 on: September 05, 2023, 05:53:30 PM »
I’d be so bloody lucky

I’ve got a joke for yer Ken, wanna hear it?


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« Reply #198 on: September 08, 2023, 10:25:20 PM »
Headway maid tonight, no thanks to the sodding Honda WS manual! Not counting my chickens and all that. It going for another go at firing her up tomorrow


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« Reply #199 on: September 08, 2023, 10:26:20 PM »
Headway maid tonight, no thanks to the sodding Honda WS manual! Not counting my chickens and all that. It going for another go at firing her up tomorrow


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**made, ** bloody spell check, just why, really?? Gggrrr!


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« Reply #200 on: September 08, 2023, 10:32:24 PM »
It thought that's what you were proding in the garage some Maid its predictive text  don't you know - beter explain it to the LHG. ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #201 on: September 08, 2023, 10:50:43 PM »



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« Reply #202 on: September 08, 2023, 11:25:39 PM »
Not unless they spell maid with an S, a H, a E, a E and a P
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« Reply #203 on: September 09, 2023, 12:16:06 AM »
Did Lorraine spell that for you bud? Being geographically challenged as you are, I can’t imagine you’re up to much with a dictionary. That and you only being allowed crayons (if you don’t eat them obvs) when behaved,.


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« Reply #204 on: September 09, 2023, 08:29:47 AM »
Good luck with the next start Roo. Had a near miss bidding for anon running VF500 as my next project. Honda were onto something when they tried all engine configurations and reckoned v4 the most suitable for a bike. Pity they are so complicated but at least wecan benefit now from a design that was too good andexpensive to be commercially competitive. Start you bugger!
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« Reply #205 on: September 09, 2023, 08:35:52 AM »
Good luck with the next start Roo. Had a near miss bidding for anon running VF500 as my next project. Honda were onto something when they tried all engine configurations and reckoned v4 the most suitable for a bike. Pity they are so complicated but at least wecan benefit now from a design that was too good andexpensive to be commercially competitive. Start you bugger!

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One day I'll have the time to restore it, not just talk and dream....

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« Reply #206 on: September 09, 2023, 11:06:20 AM »
Weren’t they the ones that had the chocolate cams that had a huge recall when they came out, can’t remember?


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« Reply #207 on: September 09, 2023, 11:29:45 AM »
Weren’t they the ones that had the chocolate cams that had a huge recall when they came out, can’t remember?


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That was the original VF750 Roo. I seem to remember Honda issued a recall on the first ones. The problem was the cams had too high a lift on the lobes and this put a huge strain on the lobes and wore them out hence the chocolate camshaft reputation. There was also an issue with the top end oil feed that made matters even worse and Honda dealers were told to use a special oil additive that 'stuck' to the cams when they were idle and would protect them on initial start up. The whole episode nearly bankrupted Honda and was the main reason why they redesigned the engine to use very expensive cam gear drive, they had a reputation to pull out the dustbin! I heard they lost money on every cam gear VFR they built but it was a cheaper alternative to having a trashed reputation and no sales of V4's. Funnily enough the same problem did not afflict the VF1000 although the more upmarket VF1000R was fitted with cam gear drive.
It could have been worse, it could have been a VF750S as they got in the US (and a few here), chocolate camshafts AND cracking frames!

Reminds me of a joke doing the rounds just before the VF750:

Knock, Knock
Who's There?
Honda CX500  ;D
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« Reply #208 on: September 09, 2023, 12:15:44 PM »
Just read this from start to finish, and what an epic yarn it is, fantastic perseverance and skill in getting this far, hope it works out right.

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Dennis
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« Reply #209 on: September 09, 2023, 02:23:50 PM »
Thanks chaps,

Dave I thought that HRC had a massive input on the VF100R hence the cam driven wizardry etc, had one of those and nearly bought another a couple of years ago but took my rose tinted glasses off just in time and bought a box of bits  Ducati853 instead DOH!

The issues I’ve had is that the Honda WS manual says to tighten down the cam holders in a specific way, all 14 bolts per holder but if you do as they instruct the exhaust cam jumps two teeth on torquing down. This continued for over ten attempts on getting it right before I had a bit of a tantrum and set the specs in the wrong order, went in perfect first time,, so that’s two inconsistencies in the manual now. I don’t mind do much but when I t’s that critical you’d think they’d have made sure the instructions are correct. It’s not like there are any special tools required………..except patience. I’ll get her all buttoned up and prod the start button later


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