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Re: Doms CB550F1 project
« Reply #120 on: August 31, 2023, 03:51:21 PM »
Depends what you mean by throttle stops

I've just got a Haynes manual today which says 56mm. This is what I was referring to Ken
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Re: Doms CB550F1 project
« Reply #121 on: September 02, 2023, 03:19:51 PM »
I think this engines not well, far too much blue smoke and I can't get the it to idle well enough to balance the carbs even. I just can't work out what to do next.
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Re: Doms CB550F1 project
« Reply #122 on: September 02, 2023, 03:44:06 PM »
Strip the head and barrels off.
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Re: Doms CB550F1 project
« Reply #123 on: September 02, 2023, 03:52:32 PM »
Strip the head and barrels off.

Yes I think so Ken, to be honest it's got an oil lea from the head gasket that needs sorting so I'm going to be going in there at some point so might as well now.  Also a few times after turning it off the exhaust has made a king of vacuum stuck back noise, what's that?
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Re: Doms CB550F1 project
« Reply #124 on: September 02, 2023, 03:58:24 PM »
Sounds like either a bent valve or a really bad valve seat problem, so it's pulling air down the exhaust due to the poor seal.

Don't forget to replace the valve stem seals whilst you have the head off.

I suspect you'll find rings stuck in the grooves on the piston as well
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Re: Doms CB550F1 project
« Reply #125 on: September 02, 2023, 04:29:46 PM »
Ken, do you remember offering any more help I might need? 😉   I might be asking a few questions
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Re: Doms CB550F1 project
« Reply #126 on: September 02, 2023, 04:45:45 PM »
Its either been stood too long with a valve open, or the cam cover has not been reassembled to the head carefully enough and a valve stem got bent!

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Re: Doms CB550F1 project
« Reply #127 on: September 02, 2023, 04:49:18 PM »
Someone's been in there before me, theres dodgy red gasket sealant on the cases which can't be a good sign.  I've never fully stripped an engine before, now I know you are all going to say pull the whole engine and strip it fully but could I pull the head and barrels in the frame and see what I find before going any further.
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Re: Doms CB550F1 project
« Reply #128 on: September 02, 2023, 05:04:23 PM »
Yup, its easier to do that way as it makes the lump lighter.
The full honda 500/550 manual is in either Ashs dropbox or alladins cave so download it and read, especially the bit about refitting cam cover!!!

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Re: Doms CB550F1 project
« Reply #129 on: September 02, 2023, 05:52:43 PM »
If any valves are bent Dom, get a magnify glass and check that non of the valve guides are cracked. Even a small hairline crack will open up once the engine has warmed up  ;)

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Re: Doms CB550F1 project
« Reply #130 on: September 02, 2023, 06:17:39 PM »
Thanks all, I've got the rocker off following several guides, I'm labelling everything and sticking bolts through labelled card to remember their positions for reassembly.   I'll post some photos later
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Re: Doms CB550F1 project
« Reply #131 on: September 02, 2023, 06:25:04 PM »
Thanks all, I've got the rocker off following several guides, I'm labelling everything and sticking bolts through labelled card to remember their positions for reassembly.   I'll post some photos later

I love pictures of the insides of engines. That is what made my job so interesting, you would never find the same problem once stripped down  ;)

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Re: Doms CB550F1 project
« Reply #132 on: September 02, 2023, 07:28:35 PM »
For now in going to call it a day, the head won't come off the barrels and it's beer o'clock
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Re: Doms CB550F1 project
« Reply #133 on: September 02, 2023, 07:51:36 PM »
My 400 head was well stuck on Iirc I sprayed all around the edges of the head gasket with Plus Gas then used a big Rubber mallet to give it some side shock. Lastly I used a plastic double glazing wedge to persuade it to separate.
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Re: Doms CB550F1 project
« Reply #134 on: September 02, 2023, 08:03:28 PM »
Here's what I've found so far...  the rockers are nice and clean but there is some scoring to the surfaces in the head and on the camshaft, some is visible but can't be felt with a nail.
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