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Re: Doms CB550F1 project
« Reply #315 on: September 24, 2023, 12:56:40 PM »
I'm concerned by the mention of a dishwasher what detergent did you use as a normal dishwashing tablet attacks aluminium?

IIRC the paint needs 24 hours of air drying in the summer before heat treatment.

Everything I read says dishwasher tablets are fine, I hope they are !  There was no signs of any attack on the bare surfaces.  I've had them drying in an heated room close to an oil radiator for 24 hrs so should be well cured, interestingly the top half has been in the oven now for an hour and is up to 180 with no signs of bubbling so I think it may be the temps rose a bit quickly or i wasnt as thorough on my bottom half?

Oh and didt use salt as we'd run out anyway.
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« Reply #316 on: September 24, 2023, 03:28:02 PM »
I put an aluminium frying pan once in our dishwasher - it turned almost black in one full wash cycle, it ended up in the bin.👎👎👎
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Re: Doms CB550F1 project
« Reply #317 on: September 24, 2023, 03:34:32 PM »
Most dishwasher tabs are caustic based, and as Ted says, it makes alloy go black.
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« Reply #318 on: September 24, 2023, 04:37:08 PM »
Most dishwasher tabs are caustic based, and as Ted says, it makes alloy go black.

Well I think I must have dodged a bullet there as it looks no different to when it went in, just cleaner.  What does everyone use in theory dishwashers when doing this then, nothing I've read has suggested anything different.
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Re: Doms CB550F1 project
« Reply #319 on: September 24, 2023, 07:59:31 PM »
I heard of a dirty wiring harness going in a dishwasher with a dishwasher tablet.
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« Reply #320 on: September 24, 2023, 10:34:31 PM »
I heard of a dirty wiring harness going in a dishwasher with a dishwasher tablet.
I think I've read that on xs650.org,  I'm really hoping I've done no lasting damage now, there's certainly no visible damage.  I defiant recommend a gas bbq to bake though, it's no where near controllable enough and mine smoked leaving marks on the new finish with the lower half.  Top half came out of the oven having been raised to 200°c for 2hrs looking perfect, no sign of any micro bubbles, my parrot loved it because it meant he got to spend the day in the living room away from any dodgy fumes.  That paint stinks when baked!
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« Reply #321 on: September 25, 2023, 08:09:48 AM »
Nearly done with painting the crankcase etc, the minor disaster with the bubbling lower case seems to be resolved.  One thing I've been meaning to mention is the camchain wear on the sides of the case, I've not seem this mention as a place for wear before, is this normal?
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Re: Doms CB550F1 project
« Reply #322 on: September 25, 2023, 08:52:12 AM »
Not common, bring the tensioner complete with you when you come up and i will check it out for you

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« Reply #323 on: September 25, 2023, 09:26:59 AM »
Not common, bring the tensioner complete with you when you come up and i will check it out for you

It explains the silvery non magnetic sump residue
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Re: Doms CB550F1 project
« Reply #324 on: September 27, 2023, 09:39:32 PM »
I have a few questions regarding o rings that may not be in, or may need upgrading from the Vesrah full gasket set, namely the oil jet o rings that I've read may need to be thicker than those supplied and will I get the small o ring for the camchain guide mounting bolt?  I know I'll need new pucks (pontefract cakes) and oil pump orings from Julie. 

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Re: Doms CB550F1 project
« Reply #325 on: September 27, 2023, 10:09:14 PM »
The tensioner ring is 5.8 x 1.9mm Dom. Should be in the kit. Measure how thick the head gasket is first.

I can supply rings for the oil pump if you need them.

Will look for that lock washer etc tomorrow
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« Reply #326 on: October 03, 2023, 09:35:05 PM »
I've ordered new bearings for the selector drum and primary shaft, two are easily removed but one on the primary shaft is really on there.  I think I've read Ken saying it can be rested in a loose vice and the shaft carefully tapped through, have I understood this correctly?
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« Reply #327 on: October 03, 2023, 09:53:26 PM »
Spot on, just open the vice wide enough for the shaft to move and tap the end.
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« Reply #328 on: October 03, 2023, 10:36:30 PM »
Thanks Ken, I was just surprised it was such a tight press fit compared to the other end
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Re: Doms CB550F1 project
« Reply #329 on: October 04, 2023, 04:21:21 PM »
How much force is needed to get the bearing off? I've smacked the hell out of it, any more and I risk damage to the shaft end.  The bearing hasn't budged but is now probably not in great condition
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