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Offline Siloxious

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stripped threads in engine for exhaust
« on: September 08, 2023, 04:58:27 PM »
Hello


Just now, an inner thread of the exhaust stud whole in the engine has snapped. I can move the exhaust stud freely in this hole. This sucks...

My idea was to tap a new M8 thread in the engine and try to fasten the exhaust pipe with a M8 bolt.

Does anyone have any experience with this? Do you think this would be a good idea or do you have alternatives? I already used loctite but it didn't work...


Thanks in advance!

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Re: stripped threads in engine for exhaust
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2023, 05:24:31 PM »
You put a time sert in to do a thread repair or helicoil it   ;)
« Last Edit: September 08, 2023, 05:37:54 PM by Trigger »

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Re: stripped threads in engine for exhaust
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2023, 06:09:33 PM »
The Helicoil will also return it to a M6 thread as well if you are not aware.
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Re: stripped threads in engine for exhaust
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2023, 10:13:16 AM »
Time sert is the best option in my experience. You could also use oversize (7mm?) ones from Hondafour.nl, but I can't find them right now on the website. You may want to contact them. https://honda4parts.nl/index.php?language=en&ceid=aa606bade50a51044ab8e895fe2bc3cd

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Re: stripped threads in engine for exhaust
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2023, 11:33:55 AM »
For an area of high heat like an exhaust port, I'd go Timesert over Helicoil.

I have had helicoils 'unwind' themselves due to the differential expansion comared to the alloy head. More hassle than a Helicoil....but worth it in the long run
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Re: stripped threads in engine for exhaust
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2023, 01:20:31 PM »
You have to be certain you have the meat for a timesert, i think they are an m10 outer thread but you need a different tap as its not the common m10

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Re: stripped threads in engine for exhaust
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2023, 09:46:19 AM »
Your initial thought of a larger bolt could work. You could always machine (or get machined) a stepped bolt - ie M8 for the head and then stepped down to M6 for the Flange. Just a thought
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Re: stripped threads in engine for exhaust
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2023, 03:15:51 PM »
The early CB1300 SCC54 engine used stepped down exhaust studs, 8mm into the head but 7mm on the outside. They changed them to 8mm all the way through later on.

I have some somewhere if you'd like to try.
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Re: stripped threads in engine for exhaust
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2023, 09:14:57 PM »
The Helicoil will also return it to a M6 thread as well if you are not aware.

Just a heads up, the helicoil worked! I stripped these threads because I thought the exhaust pipe joint should touch the block. I suddenly realised this and wow, I was annoyed with myself.

Now with the helicoils, the exhaust pipes fit nicely on the block and I haven't had any problems so far.

I'll update if the helicoils loosen when riding the bike for a bit.

Thanks everyone!

 

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