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Re: It’s home at last!
« Reply #135 on: December 26, 2023, 03:44:56 PM »
IIRC it's not easy to get at the three clips with the stator in place. Don't you need to remove the outer cover to undo the stator bolts?
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« Reply #136 on: December 26, 2023, 04:44:48 PM »
Im sure the covers i have have blind holes but will check when i have time

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« Reply #137 on: December 27, 2023, 08:12:34 AM »
FIX, PUSH ON J TYPE, Honda calls them and they are simply pressed in from the outside. The cover tabs are to be pressed in them pins. https://honda4parts.nl/product_info.php?products_id=165&language=en&ceid=c7ad76f1e237d5fa4f7b981f94de8446
I myself am looking for a second hand cover (B) (with minor damage(s)). Price of a new one has gone through the roof and I can't make myself to pay that money, since some 30 years I have seen them offered new for around € 15,-. For some reason back then they were around in abundance. Should have bought some.
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Re: It’s home at last!
« Reply #138 on: December 27, 2023, 08:22:18 AM »
I've just bought 3 of those j type push fit clips from DS - damned expensive for what they are.

Bit of an update, make sure the pins on the cover are really clean and burr free, probably a good idea to chamfer the leading edge as when I first tried fitting mine a few pushed on in to the casing which meant I had to push them back through from the other side which resulted in a bit of damage to their barbs.  I splayed them carefully with a small screwdriver to cause them to drag on the casing a bit more as well, bit of grease on the chamfered pins and success!
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Re: It’s home at last!
« Reply #139 on: December 27, 2023, 03:29:48 PM »
The pins are located on the outside of the field coil but on the inside of the stator, it's not easy to get to them but it is possible. They are definitely not blind Bryan, I've done this a few times now, it's the only safe way to remove the badge IMO.
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« Reply #140 on: December 27, 2023, 04:02:02 PM »
Thanks Dom and Ken good tips for a alternator cover virgin!🤣
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« Reply #141 on: December 27, 2023, 04:43:16 PM »
I've just bought 3 of those j type push fit clips from DS - damned expensive for what they are.

Bit of an update, make sure the pins on the cover are really clean and burr free, probably a good idea to chamfer the leading edge as when I first tried fitting mine a few pushed on in to the casing which meant I had to push them back through from the other side which resulted in a bit of damage to their barbs.  I splayed them carefully with a small screwdriver to cause them to drag on the casing a bit more as well, bit of grease on the chamfered pins and success!

A lot of the time Dom you'll find the pins are ever so slightly bent, so that they don't enter the clips at the right angle, I would advise test fitting the badge into the cover holes without the clips in place, just to check the pins are aligned, it also shows if the badge is distorted as a lot of them are by being prised off rather than knocked off from the rear, dented covers can make the edges lift up ever so slightly due to displacement. The clips can also be removed from the rear by the same method BTW. I would concur on the grease, prevent them rusting at all costs, clips that rust through can cause the badge to come loose, after a run you look down and no more badge. As Bryan says, a new one isn't cheap at all these days.

Johnny, if you want to send me the badge I'll try and knock the dent out and blend in the damage, then return it ready for whatever finish you want to apply. Or you can have a go yourself, always worthwhile learning something new. I've got 2-3 badges in various states of restoration at the moment, all of them are far worse than yours I may add. All are showing promise. Even Teds is repairable, it may not look 100% afterwards but if you blend in the damage it's possible for you to not be able to tell it was damaged unless you do a side by side comparison.
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Re: It’s home at last!
« Reply #142 on: December 27, 2023, 05:00:42 PM »
https://www.cmsnl.com/honda-cb500k1-four-england_model14660/cover-dynamo_11631323000/ Second pic, TBH the holes are closer than I remembered but it's still possible as I've done it loads of time.
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« Reply #143 on: December 27, 2023, 05:33:50 PM »
Never doubted you Ken! Came off a treat.
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« Reply #144 on: December 27, 2023, 05:36:22 PM »
Dent has gone and some of the scarring, bit to do yet!
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« Reply #145 on: December 27, 2023, 05:49:32 PM »
Keep at it. That’s starting to look really good.👍

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« Reply #146 on: December 27, 2023, 08:39:25 PM »
Johnny, you got any of those abrasive discs I use and a Dremel, if so the rest will be easy to remove. Where that deep small dent was try knocking that from the back like the dent and that will pop it out so you can flat it right down.

Glad to see my memory wasn't at fault, need a fairly long pin punch but easy if you have one of them.
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« Reply #147 on: December 27, 2023, 09:23:20 PM »
Thanks Ken, never thought about the rotary machine with the small sanding disc. I’ll be on to that next time, might be Friday. I have the dent knocked out, you mean actually raising the metal thereto then flatten out?
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« Reply #148 on: December 27, 2023, 09:41:29 PM »
Not the dent Johnny more the small stone strike above it, I found the dent knocks through to the back of the plate, if you knock it back the outer surface can then be flatted so the strike mark disappears. The discs are like small flap wheels, of various grades, roughest 80 up to 2000 grit. You have 2 mounted on each mandrel.
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« Reply #149 on: December 27, 2023, 09:49:56 PM »
I’m with you, never tried the discs. But I’ll have a go.
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