Timing problems on the 450 Bomber

[mo goldie]

are Ok Thanks K2.

Yes I will try that but I also have a new set of coils coming as I thought it was them like I told Ashley and I said I will do an Ohm`s check on them first to see what they are on the Pri and secondary before I try to use them.. that's if i nee them that is 

   

[royhall]

If it was mine I would take the system off and refit the points to prove the systems are good before going any further. That's what I did with mine to prove it was the Pamco and not the bike.

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[mo goldie]

Hi all well the coils turned up today and fitted one on and yes ..... NO SPARK so i think it is the unit itself, have emailed them again but as always just have to wait...... but if they say send it back it my postage and that's was $200 for the Unit $29 postage From USA then £41.69 Import Tax ...... wow getting to get a bit silly ha.......... why is there No where over here that do a really good Electronic Ign Kit ? well Not that I have heard of anyway unless I am missing something ha...... or of Course You Guy`s.


 

[K2-K6]

Boyer bransden http://www.boyerbransden.com/honda.html list for cl 250, 350 and would need a call to see if they also fit 450.

[sye]

I've used these in the past and found it to be totally reliable.
http://www.boyerbransden.com/

[royhall]

I'm almost sure that the Boyer 350 system doesn't fit the 450. I did look into that when I did mine. There's talk on some forums of adapting a Bonneville Boyer to fit. Don't know what's involved with that but I don't think it was straight forward.

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[K2-K6]

Hi all well the coils turned up today and fitted one on and yes ..... NO SPARK so i think it is the unit itself, have emailed them again but as always just have to wait...... but if they say send it back it my postage and that's was $200 for the Unit $29 postage From USA then £41.69 Import Tax ...... wow getting to get a bit silly ha.......... why is there No where over here that do a really good Electronic Ign Kit ? well Not that I have heard of anyway unless I am missing something ha...... or of Course You Guy`s.


 

To check the switching, route from battery + through a light bulb, then to the ignition pack wire to coil negative (disconnected from coil) this is just an earth route switched on and off by the module. The bulb should flash when you turn it over like this. Without this earth line toggling the coil won't fire.

[mo goldie]

Hi everyone Not having much luck ha........

still got no come back from over there yet just sent anther email...... don`t know where I stand with it if I send it back as they say it must be in unused condition well you have to put it on to try it ha .... oh that's what it say on there web site anyway ?

good idea about that that's to try K2 might have to give that a go soon too ha

[mo goldie]

Hi Ashley

Did you get to compare the rotors ?


Oh just found the rear Tail light has cracked so need to find a good one of them now
 

[mo goldie]

hi everyone

Well still Nothing from them over there yet, and more Emails sent

Keep going like this I will just take it all off and go back to points ha so much in trying to get things better.

[royhall]

I would temporarily go back to points anyway. That way you can prove the bike's systems are correct thus possibly proving the EI is faulty. Bit of a pain with yours as they had you cut off some connectors. Why they can't provide cables already fitted with the correct connectors is beyond me. Pretty poor really, making you basically butcher the harness. If you then should find a fault on the bike you can rectify that then refit the EI later on, this time using the correct connectors instead of those horrible screw up things

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[mo goldie]

Hi well some news they got back to me and things might be on the UP.....

as they asked me to try a few things which was to strip the wires back a bit and make sure they have got connection which I had done before anyway but ha ho give it a try again ha ( did Not make any thing new ) and asked if the Led light`s were going on and off when you rotate the engine which they do so rule out the sensors Then, so when i told them they said they can sort something out under warranty .. Yahoo ............ getting somewhere............ so have to wait for them to get back and see if they going to send out some new modules if so up to 3 weeks I bet  ha but as its cold and the bike wont be going out till spring No rush

Oh i will try that out Roy about the points too and I have Not had to butcher the wiring as them just tap into the wire still Not good tho ........ but when its all ( I Hope Up and running ) I will change out the connection's for ones like the block connectors and do a proper job ha.   

[Bryanj]

Sounds like you may be getting somewhere

[mo goldie]

Hi All been trying to rewire the points back in and blow two fuses 

can someone have a look at the pictures and tell me what go`s with what wires and what needs to be linked please.

I will start off with the coil wires there is on the left coil one black/white and one blue. right coil one Black/white and one yellow so where do they go to...... keep it simple please LOL  :'( then there is the condensers a yellow and Blue now where do they go ?. then you have the two wires from the points one yellow I think left point and the blue the right point so where do they get linked too ?

I want to prove that all ok with the points so when the Common Motor`s get back i can say it works ok with points well I hope ha .

as I say keep it simple as Not up much on this..... should have took a picture of that before I tried to instal the Electronic ign ...Hind sight ha, but you think it was going to be a fit and forget ...well I did anyway 

cheers Mo

[royhall]

The condenser's on these should have a bracket that fits onto the coil mounts.

Not a good picture but you can just see the condenser on top with its two screw bracket. Looks like it's already fitted to yours. Are they the new coils?