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Offline DomP

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Inlet port matching
« on: December 23, 2023, 11:48:31 AM »
The inlets on my cb550 are pretty poorly matched, is there much to be gained in tidying these up or am I wasting my time?
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Offline Johnny4428

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Re: Inlet port matching
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2023, 12:03:05 PM »
Not going to hurt Dom but maybe not much to be gained if a good vacuum sync is done. Better knowledge than mine on here though!
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Re: Inlet port matching
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2023, 12:22:28 PM »
You're probably right, not nearly as important as a good setup but I can't help myself meddling with things
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Re: Inlet port matching
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2023, 01:12:08 PM »
TBH I like such things to at least line up Dom - good gas flow especially on inlets strikes me as just good engineering practice.
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Re: Inlet port matching
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2023, 04:08:10 PM »
According to Mark Paris, port matching and trimming the vac screw will give your a small HP increase. If it's matched with a small port alteration as well, by making a small pocket above the port and exposing the valve stem more, that will give up to a 5 BHP increase. TBH I think it's just how brave are you to try it, the results have supposedly been proven in racing engines.

I'll be doing the port matching Dom, it's easy to do and who knows, it may work very well indeed. I've already trimmed the inlet vac screws.
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Re: Inlet port matching
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2023, 04:12:10 PM »
The book by Clive Trickey on tuning the ports on an A series engines was a big advocate of such things as port polishing etc.
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Re: Inlet port matching
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2023, 04:54:00 PM »
This isn't port polishing as such Ted, it's more to do with getting a better gas flow. Look at the picture and you can clearly see the large step where the inlet manifolds and the cylinder head machining don't match, this would cause an obstruction to the air/fuel mixture, it would hit that and cause turbulence, this slows down the intake into the cylinder. By removing this step so that the inlet manifold and the cylinder head port match better you get rid of this turbulence and the engine breathes better, this can give an increase in BHP, it's only slight but when you've only got 50bhp to start with then any extra is welcome.

Sorry if this sounded condescending, it's just so anyone else reading this with less knowledge can understand it better.

BTW, anyone wishing to try this, the way to do it is to fit a small piece of cardboard on the head, threading it onto the studs so it stays in place, like making an home made gasket. Remove it when it fits perfectly. Now fit it onto the inlet manifold matching up the bolt holes, cut the cardboard out where the inlet hole is, fit back onto the head and you can now see where you need to trim. That's my understanding of the process anyway, other ways may be better.
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Re: Inlet port matching
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2023, 07:02:36 PM »
I would include port alignment as part of the general gas flow & polishing as per Clive Trickey's book.
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Re: Inlet port matching
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2023, 08:40:43 AM »
I will be matching them up then, I would have thought a sanding drum on a dremel would do the job nicely.  Th only problem I always find is that aluminum blocks up any cutting or sanding product.
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Re: Inlet port matching
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2023, 09:16:48 AM »
Mike on the US forum insists on it when he does a head

 

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