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I haven't any of this in my Garage 0W/20 Sythetic Oil.
« on: March 09, 2024, 02:02:26 PM »
After over a year of thinking about changing our Jeep GC I finally part exchanged her for a Euro 6 compliant Petrol mild hybrid vehicle. 

Whilst reading the handbook I was stunned to find the engine oil is 0W/20 Castrol Edge - that must pour like water out of the countainer!
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Re: I haven't any of this in my Garage 0W/20 Sythetic Oil.
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2024, 02:08:15 PM »
I can use that in my Jazz,


Modern close tolerance motors,


For a few years, I used Mobil one 0-40 in the 500,

It really did like it,



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Re: I haven't any of this in my Garage 0W/20 Sythetic Oil.
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2024, 02:49:16 PM »
Most hybrids use that mate and a lot of new cars.
Mannol oil on ebay from carousel car parts is about the cheapest but it aint cheap

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Re: I haven't any of this in my Garage 0W/20 Sythetic Oil.
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2024, 03:50:12 PM »
FiL just bought new Toyota hybrid that's specifically 0W16 Oil as only choice.

If there's a 20 viscosity gap / tolerance when running at full temperature, then only a 20 viscosity oil will be needed to fill it, anything else going higher will simply reduce flow rate.

Tolerancing, metallurgy and manufacturing repeatability will all facilitate this if completed correctly.

The zero W is not stating a viscosity of any type either, only the 20 is true reference of that measurement. It's thicker at that 0W status than it is at 20 too  :)

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Re: I haven't any of this in my Garage 0W/20 Sythetic Oil.
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2024, 04:24:01 PM »
I looked at a used Toyota  RAV4 2.5 petrol Hybrid Auto it came a close second - I decided on the XC40 as it was not CCTV but dual clutch auto. I only cover around 3k miles s year so economy does not really enter my equation. Anything was going to be better than my thirsty Jeep 3.0 CRD.
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Re: I haven't any of this in my Garage 0W/20 Sythetic Oil.
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2024, 08:07:08 PM »
An odd hybrid characteristic near to me, local through road A3 we access via local roads all now at 20mph limit, going to 30mph about 400 mtrs ftom slip entry, these for local car can all be accomplished with just battery motive for many.
Get to the slip road though, traffic light start then up hill onto 3 lane 50mph carriageway, then following a hybrid sometimes gets the ICE to cut in on that slip as demand substantially increases, often with a visible output from exhaust as they start from cold to full demand straight off the bat.
They smell of sulphurrous output along with excess fuelling if following one immediately ahead.

That thin oil maybe of help then  ;D

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Re: I haven't any of this in my Garage 0W/20 Sythetic Oil.
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2024, 08:54:18 PM »
My motor is a MPH it never drives on Electric alone ever, the Electric motor boosts the ICE performance only. Regenerative braking charges the battery. Usual stop start that I can switch off.
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Re: I haven't any of this in my Garage 0W/20 Sythetic Oil.
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2024, 09:37:13 PM »
Ted, ebay item 303566439357
Sometimes comes up on special offer, way cheaper than local parts suppliers, i use it in the lexus rx mate

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Re: I haven't any of this in my Garage 0W/20 Sythetic Oil.
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2024, 10:03:18 PM »
Thanks for the tip Bryan.👍
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Re: I haven't any of this in my Garage 0W/20 Sythetic Oil.
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2024, 06:50:43 AM »
Pretty sure that Volvo has a specification for the 0w20 to meet for that car beyond just 0w20.

Volvo VCC RBS0-2AE 0W-20 synthetic oil Isn’t the same as a regular 0w20 for typical Asian cars or dexos1gen2 oils

That eBay listing is misleading as the TDS sheet doesn’t include the Volvo approval. https://www.mannol.de/create-pdf/108/en


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Re: I haven't any of this in my Garage 0W/20 Sythetic Oil.
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2024, 11:23:18 AM »
My Volvo handbook quotes Castrol Edge 0W/20.

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Re: I haven't any of this in my Garage 0W/20 Sythetic Oil.
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2024, 03:27:19 PM »
Yep probably this stuff.

https://msdspds.castrol.com/bpglis/FusionPDS.nsf/Files/0FC452DB4251C88A802583450015AE03/$File/bpxe-anxbhg.pdf

I work in the automotive parts business specifically for the Euro, and Asian brands of cars, I spend a lot of time discussing the right fluids for my customers needs. Late model Volvo’s usually have a unique oil specification and as far as I’m aware the mild hybrids call for that RBS0-2AE specification which as seen in the graph below has different properties vs a ‘normal’ ILSAC Gf6 0w20. It has different properties than GMs latest dexos1gen3 specification as well.

I am just guessing as I don’t have year and specific model info but the xc40 mild hybrids are only a few years old now maybe 4 at the oldest I think. Maybe you got them sooner on that side of the pond.

If your car is still under warranty I’d chose an oil that has that specification, so as to ensure your using an oil that will satisfy any warranty requirements on your engine should any issues arise.

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Re: I haven't any of this in my Garage 0W/20 Sythetic Oil.
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2024, 03:31:41 PM »
Ted, ebay item 303566439357
Sometimes comes up on special offer, way cheaper than local parts suppliers, i use it in the lexus rx mate

Bryan, was not calling you misleading, just the eBay post as it seems to list every oe specification imaginable in the photos, I also drive a Toyota, and a modern API SP, oe ILSAC gf6 is all the Toyota’s require in terms of specification.


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Re: I haven't any of this in my Garage 0W/20 Sythetic Oil.
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2024, 03:50:56 PM »
FWIW the vehicle is still under Volvo warranty for another 6 months of the 3 year manufacturer warranty. It comes with a futher 1 year warranty so until that expires I will only be topping up oil. My days of home servicing are over.
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Re: I haven't any of this in my Garage 0W/20 Sythetic Oil.
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2024, 04:05:46 PM »
Was out at a small car meet today, there was a XC40 there Ted. In black and a good looking car. Also a blue estate (unsure of number) but some good crisp design on them within current generation of Volvo.

Quite an eclectic mix, from very early E-Type and through many others to current Lotus. Seemed like it was going to clear up but got steadily more wet with good turnout but not the usual numbers.

They do good sausage or bacon roll though as pub location getting the kitchen warmed up prior to lunch service  :)

 

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