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top end gasket set recomendations
« on: May 04, 2024, 10:03:39 AM »
Hi All
not been on for a while, now have a CB500 1973 to go with the 750, and taking top end down. could anyone please recomend a top end gasket set? (hopefully complete) :-)
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John
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Re: top end gasket set recomendations
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2024, 10:07:42 AM »
I can't

But most do not contain the rubber pucks,

Also the valve stem seals can be a bit iffy

Might be worth buying those separately



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Re: top end gasket set recomendations
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2024, 10:11:12 AM »
thanks John, :-)
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Re: top end gasket set recomendations
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2024, 07:05:59 PM »
No matter what set you need thicker O rings at the headgasket than those in the set

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Re: top end gasket set recomendations
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2024, 09:19:12 PM »
No matter what set you need thicker O rings at the headgasket than those in the set
Does this apply to all gasket sets Bryan or just relating to this particular model? I will be putting the top end back together on my CB550 in the next month or 2 and it would be good know if I’m going to need to source some different O rings.

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Re: top end gasket set recomendations
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2024, 10:49:26 PM »
All head gaskets are now thicker than Honda original due to no asbestos used in manufacture but the suppliers still give you the original size O rings so they dont seal as well.
If you go to the US site and look up Mark Paris (Hondaman) he can sdvise on size, i dont have all my books to hand

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Re: top end gasket set recomendations
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2024, 07:52:55 AM »
Thanks Brian, good to know and will have saved some headaches later. :-)
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Re: top end gasket set recomendations
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2024, 08:18:22 AM »
Maybe get the block skimmed which will make the oring recess slightly shallower, that's what I did following Brian's advice after he rebored my block.  I used Vesrah gaskets from DS
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Re: top end gasket set recomendations
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2024, 08:49:58 AM »
I have a local source for most O rings

A company called Hayley Group

On a local industrial estate, the Hereford branch are really helpful,

Imperial, metric,fuel resistant etc,

And the bonus, normally a fraction of the cost of NOS,

Take a sample, and the item, like tappet cap ,they will find the size needed



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Re: top end gasket set recomendations
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2024, 10:23:16 AM »
It depends which gasket set you use as to the size O rings you will need. All the kits have different depth head gaskets.
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Re: top end gasket set recomendations
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2024, 05:37:56 PM »
I have a local source for most O rings

A company called Hayley Group

On a local industrial estate, the Hereford branch are really helpful,

Imperial, metric,fuel resistant etc,

And the bonus, normally a fraction of the cost of NOS,

Take a sample, and the item, like tappet cap ,they will find the size needed



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Re: top end gasket set recomendations
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2024, 08:26:53 AM »
I have a local source for most O rings

A company called Hayley Group

On a local industrial estate, the Hereford branch are really helpful,

Imperial, metric,fuel resistant etc,

And the bonus, normally a fraction of the cost of NOS,




Take a sample, and the item, like tappet cap ,they will find the size needed



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Thank you John
Great tip and advise :-)
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Mini Mayfair 1984

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Re: top end gasket set recomendations
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2024, 08:30:06 AM »
It depends which gasket set you use as to the size O rings you will need. All the kits have different depth head gaskets.

Thank you nurse Julie
any adea on the difference I should be looking for from gasket thicknes to `O ring`? or how would you work out what size would be best to use?
thank you again
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Mini Mayfair 1984

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Re: top end gasket set recomendations
« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2024, 10:10:12 PM »
Check the thickness of new gasket compared with old and the difference then added to standard o ring thickness.
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Re: top end gasket set recomendations
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2024, 03:25:00 PM »
thank you Johnny, the old gasket is completely damaged beyond measurement, had to scrap off, but thank you for the tip
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