Thanks Paul,
My bike is at a Mate,s garage at the moment, when I get up there I will have a look and come back to you. I made the mistake of drilling out the thread inside the mudguard to put some LED indicators in the position where the bolt goes through to secure the grab rail. This is before I got the grab rail as it was taking so much time to locate one. I have the original indicators which I will put on the back and front. The honda manual does show some kind of spacer but its hard to work out what it is. regards Dave