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POR15 Tank Treatment
« on: September 30, 2012, 11:26:16 PM »
I recently used the POR15 kit to treat my 400F tank. Here's how it went.

My bike has been laid up for a while so I looked into the tank with some trepidation. In fact, it didn't look too bad, spine OK and just a bit of rust on a patch at the bottom and in the seam. What to do?

Consulted the interweb and chose the "cola" idea. Put in 2l of "every little helps" and left it for a couple of hours. Rinsed out with warm water and allowed to dry. Result - more rust than before, including some now on the spine.

Tried filling right up with vinegar. Costco this time. Gets all the rust off but once you have rinsed and dried its back pretty quickly. The pictures here show how I seem to have managed to turn a reasonable tank into a filthy one. Hmmm. I wonder if the "tide mark" is where the cola came up to.
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Re: POR15 Tank Treatment
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2012, 11:27:31 PM »
Had to do something so I decided the POR15 kit of clean/prepare/paint might be a better approach. I protected the tank with a layer of vaseline and then cling film. The bung is this one: http://www.bpfittings.co.uk/pc/49-42mm-Winter-Expansion-Plug-Black-10825p4936.htm
For the petcock I used cling film folded a few times and threaded the petrol tap nut over it.

Before using the Marine Clean I dissolved a dishwasher tablet in hot water and shoshed this around for 15 minutes or so then rinsed out. Not sure if this did much good but you only have 1l of Marine Clean so I figured it might be helpful, especially as I had put a little oil in after the vinegar idea.

In with the Marine Clean 1:1 with hot water according to the instructions. I left this in for 30 mins, agitating pretty much throughout. You can see the deposits in the bucket and MC is a clear solution when it goes in.
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Re: POR15 Tank Treatment
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2012, 11:28:36 PM »
Rinse out thoroughly then in with the preparation solution. This is what is supposed to remove the rust and prime the surface for the paint.

I agitated for 20 minutes, left it on each of right-way-up, either side and upside-down for 20 minutes then another 20 minutes of sloshing to give the maximum recommended time of 2hrs. These pictures show what the result is after that. This is before drying and although some flash rust does come back its not as bad as post vinegar/cola.

The instructions emphasise the importance of drying the tank completely. Here's my arrangement. Minimum heat and maximum flow seemed to result in the hair dryer not cutting out.

I reckon it took about 90 minutes. I gave it 10 more minutes after I could no longer see any water in there.
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Re: POR15 Tank Treatment
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2012, 11:29:29 PM »
Crunch time and in with the paint. During all the rinsing I decided the excess paint would be coming out of the filler cap. The petcock opening sticks up about 5mm inside the tank and it seemed difficult enough to get all the water out that way, never mind gloopy paint.

Not using the bung (obvious I guess) instead taping over the filler opening. Poured it all in and had a good oscillate. Took the tape off covering the filler for a quick look inside - coverage looked good so I reckoned I could pour out the excess. I did this on to newspaper. You can't keep the paint and anyway I estimate less than 75ml came out.

Once I couldn't get any more out I left the tank to dry. The instructions say you don't want puddles of the stuff anywhere so every 20 mins or so I had a look to see whether any excess was collecting in the seams. There will always be some running down the sides I guess so I swilled it around a bit to "lose" it. This seemed to work fine.

Here's a couple of pictures after the paint is dry. Looks like it has taken well and overall I am very impressed.

Not sure what happened with the cola/vinegar really but couldn't leave it like that. The paint is pretty evil so you must clean off anything that gets where you don't want it.

Good luck if you try it and hope this helps.
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Re: POR15 Tank Treatment
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2013, 03:13:46 PM »
Did you use the Rust Preventive Paint or the Fuel Tank Sealer? How is it now?
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Re: POR15 Tank Treatment
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2013, 04:42:08 PM »
I used this: http://www.frost.co.uk/por15-motorcycle-fuel-tank-repair-kit.html

Fitted a new filter to the tap but haven't put any petrol in the tank yet. Forgot to put the gloves on and it took a week to come off my fingers. Brush went rock hard. Bike will be on the road when the weather gets better....
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Re: POR15 Tank Treatment
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2013, 03:28:35 PM »
And how did you clean the vasaline off the tank?  :-\
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Re: POR15 Tank Treatment
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2013, 04:03:05 PM »
Ha ha I can't remember - meths perhaps - but I recommend doing that. Its a good way to protect the paintwork and mine is in very good nick.
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Re: POR15 Tank Treatment
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2013, 07:30:54 PM »
I didn't see this last year when posted.....but thanks for a very good walk through of doing it for real Tom, and will be interested to see how you get on when the petrol is used in it.

There was one sunny day last tuesday, but not quite enough to get a really good condition bike out in.

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Re: POR15 Tank Treatment
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2013, 03:25:02 PM »
I have also used this on my G5 about 10 months ago. I have used my bike most days since. the inside is still like it was the day i did it.
Billy 8)
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Re: POR15 Tank Treatment
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2013, 10:14:17 AM »
Had fuel in it for a couple of months now... the stuff seems totally impervious, if anything adverse happens I'll let you know. Emphasis is on fastidiously following the instructions and taking your time.
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Re: POR15 Tank Treatment
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2013, 10:49:20 AM »
If anyone is of doing this and getting the tank resprayed, do this first. I Vaselined and clingfilmed my tank as suggested by Tom, but I still managed to get a bit on the paintwork just by the filler cap. It it very difficult to get off once dry. I ended up rubbing down the contaminant to the undercoat and then touching in. A bit of a pisser after a nice respray  :'(.
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