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New in
« on: September 08, 2014, 01:28:59 PM »
We all like photos so here's a few of my new 400 four. 10,000 miles from new with one previous owner
The ace bars were apparently put on from new ...?
I kinda like it as is its all very original and the more I look the more it seems untouched? But I am no expert ...I'll get some more close ups soon....
The exhaust had a hole in it at the bottom of the collector.  I welded it up for now it will never be seen .....do,they all go here ...i could just about get my 3 fingers in the hole.   Is it worth putting a small 4mm ish drain hole under there to let the nasty build up out?
Currently trying to get the brake calliper arm pivot out.....after the best part of 20 years stood up
And what about that back box....very practical???
« Last Edit: September 08, 2014, 02:02:00 PM by Woodside »

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Re: New in
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2014, 02:40:46 PM »
Quite an early one and a good base to start as it seems all there and unmolested.

That collector box won't last - sorry.  Once they get to that stage they're not long for this world.  The rack is a very useful (and hard to find) addition, but that box is fugly in the extreme.
 
As for the pivot pin - lots and lots of heat, and then you should be able to knock it out.  I haven't found one yet that is immune to Assault By Blowlamp.

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Re: New in
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2014, 02:53:38 PM »
Agree the collector box is screwed ..but I figure it will buy me some time..I will keep a look out for another one ..the rest of the pipes are sound...
Pivot pin is in for an assault soon ....I forgot how stubborn they can be...
The best thing about the top box. Other than its removable ..was that the original tool box holder complete with tools were stored in there...
I even have one of those real expensive cable retaining clips that brought you into this sohc site
« Last Edit: September 08, 2014, 03:00:18 PM by Woodside »

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Re: New in
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2014, 03:02:10 PM »
I love looking at the pics on other threads so here's some more...
I might look at putting some standard bars back on but I'm sure ill need some more parts ..fork ears etc? As the light has been extended into the fairing
Any one got anything useful kicking around?
« Last Edit: September 08, 2014, 03:04:54 PM by Woodside »

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Re: New in
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2014, 03:13:17 PM »
Oil looking good  :P

Can't tell if you have the clutch cable guide and whether the engine passes the "Simon" test of ever having been apart before.
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Re: New in
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2014, 03:21:35 PM »
I assume you mean this guide .?
If so its a yes...
Doesn't look like its been to bits but like I say I'm no expert

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Re: New in
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2014, 03:36:18 PM »
Looks a VERY complete  bike.... well done. All those 'little' bits in place; she'll scrub up nicely.
Enjoy...

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Re: New in
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2014, 03:38:59 PM »
Yup
That's all its going to get a real good clean up...after all this is how it should look after 40ish years....(plus it will keep the costs down)

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Re: New in
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2014, 04:49:44 PM »
I assume you mean this guide .?
If so its a yes...
Doesn't look like its been to bits but like I say I'm no expert
Ah, no - it's failed the test!!

Should be like this : http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,4940.msg23402.html#msg23402

but yes - it is a nice example. Have fun with it
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Re: New in
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2014, 05:06:41 PM »
Ahhhh I don't want to fail any tests....like I say I really am no expert....but I did just look in the honda shop  manual.page 110 v1 service data part 6 routing  (Which by the way was in that hideous top box too) and the clip is clearly mounted on the coil bracket and not the top of the engine ,....
Please don't shoot me down to quick ...if I am wrong..and I don't really want to get in a disagreement....as all information is greatly recieved

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Re: New in
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2014, 10:56:13 PM »
Nice early example , not many around like yours.

That workshop manual graphic isn't too clear where the clutch cable guide attaches.... the breather cover RH rear bolt retains it... the guide has a folded edge I think? to locate it against the cover.
All the 400/4's I remember working on had it fixed there from new. Anorakish I know !

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Re: New in
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2014, 11:11:16 PM »
I have always known 45467-329-000 to be connected to the coils. The whole point in this cable guide is to keep it away from the heat of the engine. Have seen one in the states on the breather bolt and wondered why.

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Re: New in
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2014, 11:12:26 PM »
I just noticed you still have the elusive harness strap that hooks onto the frame in front of the Left coil.
Many restorers would pay good money for one of those..... I used a couple of wide cable ties to improvise !
Rear sprocket must be the original ... cover plate is on my list of bits to find.

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Re: New in
« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2014, 01:38:28 AM »
Hi Clem,

'That elusive little strap' was quite easy to find as I remember, and NOS / £19+ postage (you gotta be keen).

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/m.html?_odkw=&_ssn=bertrum4572&hash=item4609178909&item=300800248073&pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&_osacat=0&_ipg=25&_from=R40&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313.TR11.TRC1.A0.H0.Xcb400&_nkw=cb400&_sacat=0

Last work on my bike was de-riveting the sprocket guard, restoring, & re-fixing to a new sprocket. Glad to have that, never see them for sale anywhere.

And I'm beginning to thing the clutch cable guide does indeed attach to the coils... the folded locating tab doesn't quite make sense / orientate nicely when using the breather bolt.

Furthermore, the parts diagram "suggests" as Trig reckons...

Tom... I HOPE you've not been giving me duff info on this; I'll have been riding a bike with a clip in the wrong place!!!  Sacre bleu!
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Re: New in
« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2014, 07:22:28 AM »
Apologies to everyone I never meant to turn this fun loving banter strewn forum into a rivet counting and anal perfection hunting owners club
.... more akin to the norton owners club???
I will admit the clip does appear to. give a straighter route when connected to the engine but as trigger says why would you have a clip to keep a cable away from the engine strapped directly to it
..and the ally tab does make sense on the coil bracket...
Is it possible that a mechanic while doing the pdi check or even during a service thought he had a better idea than Mr Honda and moved the clip and quite honestly no one was the wiser?
« Last Edit: September 09, 2014, 07:24:33 AM by Woodside »

 

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