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Cheers Archie. Got some 9mm ones in stainless already, may give them another go. Think I will use a thin smear of clear silicone this time, may just seal them up a bit better. Should be okay its supposed to be heat and petrol resistant, plus it should just roll off the rubbers if I need to take them off again. Somebody told me to use Hondabond, but that's just going to make a mess that probably wont clean off. Thoughts anybody. Thanks all. Roy.