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Re: Historic Vehicle rolling 40 year exemption..
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2015, 09:26:20 AM »
Not sure how that's a trick? Your bike has to be 40 years old and it reaches that in August. If you want your tax free at that point, in August you will have to SORN it until they send your tax back then re-tax it for free. I would just live with it and then get it free at renewal. Got another 5 years to wait on my 750F2 as its a 1980 reg. Must have sat unloved in the showroom for 3 years.
Could be worth sending the money to Honda to get a date of manufacture certificate and send it to dvla, the date of registration is not what matters to them, it's when it was built that counts, and it was probably built in late 76/77, worth the dating cert fee to get tax exenption a few years earlier. :))
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Re: Historic Vehicle rolling 40 year exemption..
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2015, 10:07:21 AM »
Stangely enough Hairygit, Ive just taken some photo's for VJMC to do me a dating certificate. Just waiting for them to come back then I shall fill in the forms and get them off. That should save 3 years of road tax. Great minds think alike!! 8)
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Re: Historic Vehicle rolling 40 year exemption..
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2015, 10:34:10 AM »
Thanks Bryan, that is good to know because my MOT is due and I do not want to wait for the DVLA to spend a few weeks doing the paperwork.  This means I can get the bike on the road straight away.

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Re: Historic Vehicle rolling 40 year exemption..
« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2015, 11:53:37 AM »
Roy, I seem to remember a thread on here that said dvla will ONLY accept dating evidence from Honda thenselves, someone will hopefully be able to post a link to the thread.
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Re: Historic Vehicle rolling 40 year exemption..
« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2015, 01:44:02 PM »
Roy, I seem to remember a thread on here that said dvla will ONLY accept dating evidence from Honda thenselves, someone will hopefully be able to post a link to the thread.


 see the link to INF34,the info that you need for historic vehicles,now for pre 1975 vehicles


https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/419830/INF34_090315.pdf
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Re: Historic Vehicle rolling 40 year exemption..
« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2015, 02:55:44 PM »
Thanks for that guys. Saves me wasting time and money. Think I will leave the registration just as it is.
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Re: Historic Vehicle rolling 40 year exemption..
« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2015, 05:01:40 PM »
Roy, I seem to remember a thread on here that said dvla will ONLY accept dating evidence from Honda thenselves, someone will hopefully be able to post a link to the thread.
As per my earlier post DVLA accepted a dating letter from VJMC for my bike. Honda UK were unable to (or wouldn't) help, this was also stated in the VJMC letter.
Should save me 4 years of road tax so I think worth the effort.

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Re: Historic Vehicle rolling 40 year exemption..
« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2015, 06:12:27 PM »
Maybe I will did deeper on this. Got another 2 years to do it whatever as the F2 is a 1977 bike.
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Re: Historic Vehicle rolling 40 year exemption..
« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2015, 06:44:53 PM »
You've missed the point.  I have to pay an extra 7 months tax (Sept - March inclusive) for a bike that's more than 40 years old
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Re: Historic Vehicle rolling 40 year exemption..
« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2015, 09:08:43 AM »
Mike. Beg to differ, but I've not missed the point at all. The rules say "at time of taxation". I hate paying tax as much as anyone, but it has to be 40 years old on the day you tax it and yours was 5 months away. I think it's  brilliant that we get historical vehicle status at all, and right or wrong that's the way they chose to administer it. Cant think of many other countries that give historical status. But that said, if its tax its theft. ;D ;D
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Re: Historic Vehicle rolling 40 year exemption..
« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2015, 10:01:59 AM »
it changes each year in April.  This year it is machines made before 1st Jan 1975.  Next year it will be machines made before 1st Jan 1976 but you will have to wait until April before you can apply...........

The date you tax your vehicle does not come into it.

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Re: Historic Vehicle rolling 40 year exemption..
« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2015, 10:14:51 AM »
Only in that if you tax it 15th march when its only 39 years and 11 months old you have to pay the full amount. If you wait two weeks until 1st April its free if you see what I mean. You dont get it free if your vehicle becomes 40 years old during the tax year, it must be 40 years old at the time you tax it. Crikey, I'm confusing myself now.  ;D
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Re: Historic Vehicle rolling 40 year exemption..
« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2015, 11:09:09 AM »
I always SORN it for the winter anyway.  I should have my Katana 650 on the road by then to use.
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Re: Historic Vehicle rolling 40 year exemption..
« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2015, 11:15:37 AM »
I bought my bike in April 1976 so if it goes on date first registered I will have to wait until the following year, so who do you contact at Honda to get a certificate stating when it was manufactured ?

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Re: Historic Vehicle rolling 40 year exemption..
« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2015, 02:53:07 PM »
Just Honda UK motorcycle division, dating letter costs about £30 from memory

 

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