350F exhausts from CMS, DSS & AC-Motorradteile (Germany)

[Tiny Tim]

I can certainly vouch for the quality of the exhaust from the guy James recommends.

[royhall]

Superb that James. The last set of Sankei the guy reckons. Cost me £880 (ouch) with the Paypal conversion rate. £110 more than CMS but these are the real thing so definitely worth it. And I hope, they will have nice smooth welds instead of saw teeth.

[Johnwebley]

Roy - this is the guy I bought my set that TT had - has one set in stock...

http://m.ebay.de/itm/291473271967?nav=SEARCH

Think with the euro as it is that works out about £850 delivered...

 wow,just checked the site,they have NOS HM323's  at only 2,800 euro !!! a set

[JamesH]

Happy to help Roy, glad you snagged them!

[Trigger]

Hi Roy - happy to pop into wemoto for you if you can pre-warn them. I'm on my way back from Greece now, back in circulation on Thursday...J

Holiday,holiday ? You should not have time for these kind of luxury's 

[JamesH]

Three Kids and a wife demand it Graham - me I'd rather lock myself in a garage for a week and play with the Hondas but there you go...

[royhall]

Full refund from CMS no hassle at all.   Got charged £22.16p by NatWest for a non Sterling transaction though. Robbing set of B*****ds. Leave me alone and go and rig some Libor rates or something useful.

[royhall]

The latest exhausts have just arrived from AC-Motorradteile (Germany). As soon as I saw the box my heart sank. Its got the CMS logo with the CMS name roughly scraped off. I think you know where this is going. This is what they are listing   http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CB-350-Four-Auspuffanlage-Auspuff-4-4-Exhaust-Muffler-System-Sankei-New-/291477666989?   Just check the seam weld in the fourth picture.

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Opened all four boxes within and guess what, same old crap just more expensive.

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Is it me expecting too much from a set of exhausts at £880, or could they have bought a £30 angle grinder and done something with this garbage before its chromed. Needless to say this junk is going back as well, wasted £60 on postage now (nearer £100 now with exchange rate charges), this is past a joke.

There's a good set of 4 into 2 available for this bike, I think that's the way to go as everybody is selling the same thing. Have these suppliers not got any standards, they should be bleedin ashamed of themselves selling high priced scrap like this. And misrepresenting like that is just below slime.

And as for CMS being a top supplier, although they have been through the entire stock and could not find any good ones, they are still for sale without a mention of the crap welds. Same with DSS. Absolutely criminal behaviour. These should all be sent back to the manufacturer, and if it puts them out of business, then thank heavens for that.

Buyer beware of these unscrupulous b******s.

[Bitsa (Ralph Wright - RIP)]

Well there you go I think I have said all there is to say about pattern parts but today not alot of choice left
Keep looking and who knows what may turn up
Cheers
Bitsa

[royhall]

To be honest Bitsa I'm not expecting the world from pattern parts, It's the dishonesty and misrepresentation that's got me. Criminal behaviour. I know you cant open every box but when you have been told and you have checked all your stock, and then you carry on selling them as if it doesn't matter. That's a bad company if ever I saw one. And the German guy using an old picture, and actually saying in the text that "you get what is in the picture" Unbelievable.

[Bitsa (Ralph Wright - RIP)]

Agree with you but they think you have no choice and will settle for expensive crap
Cheers
Bitsa

[hairygit]

Scary thing about it all is the fact they were made by Sankei, who made the original pipes fitted to most Hondas of the 70's and 80's. If that is the standard of work from oem suppliers these days. the future is certainly bleak, I don't own any modern Hondas, are the modern pipes on current bikes as badly made/finished?

[royhall]

Not really. I have a CB1300, my mates have CB1000R and Fireblades. The standard of the exhausts on these is superb. Don't know if Sankei are still the same company as back then, May have been sold out a few times. One things for sure, they are just trading on a name. And with products like that should be forced into bankruptcy. Can you tell yet that I am a bit pi***d off with these exhausts.

[hairygit]

I understand completely Roy! Maybe it would be worth offering cms or someone a cheeky offer for a set. say £100 or so. and clean the welds yourself and then get them rechromed? A lot of hassle agreed, but point out that they are no better than factory rejects in reality, they might go for it.O:)

[royhall]

Strangely enough, I considered doing that. You could probably get away with just the top two welds as the rest are out of site.