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Carb 069a carb kits
« on: November 21, 2015, 08:55:56 PM »
As I intend to refurb my 550f1 carbs 069a ,!I am tempted with offers I've viewed on the auction site thats half the the price of keysters repair kits , can anyone advise me if its worth the gamble if you have used these cheaper kits,
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Re: Carb 069a carb kits
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2015, 09:54:45 PM »
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As I intend to refurb my 550f1 carbs 069a

Why would you? You could just use the old OEM brass parts that you have (I suppose). They hardly wear, if at all. Many advice to stay away from Keyster jets.
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Re: Carb 069a carb kits
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2015, 11:19:39 AM »
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Myself and many members use this kit >>http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/74-76-HONDA-CB550K-CB550F-CARB-REPAIR-KIT-SET-OF-4-REPAIR-KITS-INCLUDE-CI1220-/252120220935?hash=item3ab3894507:g:i5sAAOSwFTRTpRvw
Three main jets seem to suggest the set covers all models. But only one needle set? F and K models had different shaped needles. 069A carbs (all CB550F models) have needle set 16012-390-004 with needles stamped in number 273004.
022A (CB550K/K1) and 087A (CB550K2 '76) carbs have needle set 16012-323-004 with needles stamped in number 272304. BTW, the latter are also in the 627B and 649A carbs that were on the CB500/K1/K2.
Maybe the seals are good enough, maybe...
You'll find many complaints in the international forum. Exactly what brass parts are worn in your carbs? Reason I ask: I've not replaced one (brass) part yet in my CB500 carbs. No wonder if you realise how little petrol all in all has passed (500cc fed by no less than four carbs. And mine so far served 130.000+ kms.



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Re: Carb 069a carb kits
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2015, 11:26:07 AM »
This shop seems reasonable priced, offering individual parts as well:
http://www.nrp-carbs.co.uk/shop/index.php?route=product/search&keyword=CB550&category_id=0

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Re: Carb 069a carb kits
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2015, 11:39:29 AM »
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Myself and many members use this kit >>http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/74-76-HONDA-CB550K-CB550F-CARB-REPAIR-KIT-SET-OF-4-REPAIR-KITS-INCLUDE-CI1220-/252120220935?hash=item3ab3894507:g:i5sAAOSwFTRTpRvw
Three main jets seem to suggest the set covers all models. But only one needle set? F and K models had different shaped needles. Maybe the seals are good enough, maybe...
You'll find many complaints in the international forum. What brass parts are worn in your carbs?

You old boy's worry too much, have fitted over 30 sets to 400, 500, 550 and 750 from this supplier with no problem ;)

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Re: Carb 069a carb kits
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2015, 11:55:32 AM »
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Myself and many members use this kit >>http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/74-76-HONDA-CB550K-CB550F-CARB-REPAIR-KIT-SET-OF-4-REPAIR-KITS-INCLUDE-CI1220-/252120220935?hash=item3ab3894507:g:i5sAAOSwFTRTpRvw
Three main jets seem to suggest the set covers all models. But only one needle set? F and K models had different shaped needles. Maybe the seals are good enough, maybe...
You'll find many complaints in the international forum. What brass parts are worn in your carbs?

You old boy's worry too much, have fitted over 30 sets to 400, 500, 550 and 750 from this supplier with no problem ;)

I have only fitted one set from this supplier, to my 400/4 and have done 3000 miles this year since and had no problems at all. Very easy to fit, small warm hands help (see previous posts on this subject), they were also delivered within 5 days and no import duties to be paid. I have heard other members say there are too many jets in some kits but, I believe this is for the same carbs but in different countries (I could be wrong on that though ). I have just purchased another kit for my 550 K3 and do not anticipate any problems as I'm using 069A carbs.
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Re: Carb 069a carb kits
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2015, 01:47:27 PM »
Thanks guys for your replys and advice ,  as some of the seals are worn and hard ,also A few leaks etc,thought as its stripped out I could replace seals, gaskets, and fuel valves,  at the moment I have slow jet 38 & main jet 86. , but as the Honda parts book states  38 slow jet ,  98 main jet ,  and as
Cruzinimage uk ,kits supply as eBay advertise there are 78, 86, & 100 sizes  ( NO 98 ) , just wondered if the difference between 86 and going to 100 would be a lot noticeable in performance ,
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Re: Carb 069a carb kits
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2015, 07:49:31 PM »
78 is the main jet size for a CB500 for Europe, except France and UK that had 100.
100 was also standard on the 4-4 exhaust models: CB550, CB550K1 and CB550K2. These 'K' models had the 022A or the 087A carbs.
98 was the standard size for all 4-1 models: CB550F, CB550F1 and CB550F2. All these 'F' models had the 069A carbs
86 is not a known size for any CB500 or CB550.
The above concerns the models with oldstyle Keihin carbs.

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Re: Carb 069a carb kits
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2015, 08:20:35 PM »
Ha Delta,  bit of mistake on my behave read the size on the jet upside down 86 instead of 98.....as for a replacement kit to stop the flooding  I'm going to just replace the seals at the moment that I'm hoping to purchase from another outlet ... Try that first as there are varied reviews Ive read between keysters and other jap copies , didn't want to waste my ££££'s on crap or be a Guinea pig as someone suggested a couple years ago .😜,,As you pointed out a certain supplier's kit supply the same needle for the f & k for that year..... Honda,'s spec is different needles for the F&K models

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