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Re: Frame and engine numbers .
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2016, 09:30:07 PM »
I don't know if HONDA Germany still has that info which frame with  which engine was sold here but I guess  they had it for warranty purposes.

I think there must have been a warranty card and a service booklet with VIN and engine no.  in any country.

In the UK, you will only know it is a CB750 on the registration paper (V5) as it only shows as a Honda 750. The CB part only shows on the frame and engine number listed. We can change the frame, engine and colour very easy on the registration paper.

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Re: Frame and engine numbers .
« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2016, 06:33:01 AM »
Didnt matter what the yanks blew up Honda did not supply complete engines and new cases come with no numbers and the repairer is supposed to stamp in the original one

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Re: Frame and engine numbers .
« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2016, 06:41:20 AM »
When you dont have any old paper work you can't say if it's the original engine mounted when new.
Same here in Germany.

Why do you always refer to USA, only US Bikes here?
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Re: Frame and engine numbers .
« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2016, 07:22:13 AM »
Because most members 750's are from the USA. I only have UK units.

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Re: Frame and engine numbers .
« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2016, 04:58:50 PM »
The yanks tend to have bikes as toys and they get parked up with the smallest fault so you can get decent low mileage ones also they were the biggest market for Honda so there are lots over there

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Re: Frame and engine numbers .
« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2016, 08:04:37 AM »
Hi,

I would like to know if the engine number CB750E- 2419733 is the k5 model???

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Re: Frame and engine numbers .
« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2016, 09:24:23 AM »
On mine the frame number is 279 higher than the engine. If they are close you can be more confident they came from Honda as a pair from new, if they are thousands apart you would wonder why.

I wonder what became of the 'matching numbers' custom we saw for sale the other week? Imagine buying that and then reading this thread!  :o
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Re: Frame and engine numbers .
« Reply #22 on: March 30, 2016, 10:00:31 AM »
Hi,

I would like to know if the engine number CB750E- 2419733 is the k5 model???

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Yep, 241 relates to a K5 ;)

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Re: Frame and engine numbers .
« Reply #23 on: March 30, 2016, 10:11:52 AM »
On my both KO´s, engine number is slightly higher than frame numer.

Pic of warranty card and 2. page of service booklet.
Bike was deliverred by HONDA schuh.
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Re: Frame and engine numbers .
« Reply #24 on: March 30, 2016, 10:35:02 AM »
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Re: Frame and engine numbers .
« Reply #25 on: March 30, 2016, 10:37:00 AM »
On my both KO´s, engine number is slightly higher than frame numer.

Pic of warranty card and 2. page of service booklet.
Bike was deliverred by HONDA schuh.

if you could gives "likes'" on this forum , like on HondaTwins.net...those pics would definitely be getting a like from me Uli.  :)
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Re: Frame and engine numbers .
« Reply #26 on: March 30, 2016, 12:19:45 PM »
Like said above Honda did apparently not supply complete engines.
Met a Sand Cast in Belgium for the 1971 GP.
He had had to wait a whole summer for a new crankcase!
My Danish registration paper says both frame and engine vins.
In the US forum HondaMan says his from new K2 had an older engine!
In the resent story about extra oil holes in clutch hub.
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Re: Frame and engine numbers .
« Reply #27 on: March 30, 2016, 04:21:57 PM »
On my both KO´s, engine number is slightly higher than frame numer.

Pic of warranty card and 2. page of service booklet.
Bike was deliverred by HONDA schuh.

if you could gives "likes'" on this forum , like on HondaTwins.net...those pics would definitely be getting a like from me Uli.  :)

Thanks Ash.

And Mr. Schuh himself signed it.

(Don´t know if you know "HONDA schuh". Here they are well known for there baggage racks, steering damper, crash bars etc.)

Here is the genuine "title" (KFZ Brief) of 1016050.
HONDA Germany paid import duties on Februar 3, 1970.
Engine number is 1016003.
Lots of other info on the other sites. E.g. first registration was on march 4, 1970 by a guy named Ulrich (as me).

Sorry, I thought the engine number was higher than frame number.

cheers, Uli

 

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