Post by: ComfySofa on April 26, 2022, 04:22:49 PM
A little bit of history....my dads bike. When he passed away we thought he sold it but, it was at the back of the garage in good condition with some blankets over (but not used for 20 years or so). As my 2 brothers part owned it they wanted to sell it. It has 2 previous owners, both in the family and 6k ish on the clock. About 7 years ago i rode it once to the MOT which it passed but then made the decision to buy my 2 brothers out (best thing i ever did) . As i had no room in my garage to store it (a small garage with an RSV4, Hypermotard 1100 evo sp and a z1000) in there my mate offered to store it in a shipping container at his workplace....it sat there for 5 years and the damp ate it alive...hence my decision to strip it down and rebuild from the ground up. My plan is to do a resto mod....and update all the wiring, remove the old points, add in a Motogadget MUnit and change all the bulbs to LED.
I did make a start by getting a load of powder coating done, some rechroming and rebuild the wheels with alloy rims and stainless spokes. Heres some random pics and not in order....
Post by: ComfySofa on April 26, 2022, 04:26:33 PM
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Post by: ComfySofa on April 26, 2022, 06:50:26 PM
I want to fit a MotoGadget MUnit...anyone else fitted one to these?...(ive already got the electronic ignition conversion) along with LED replacements where possible.....the idea is to modernize it but without affecting the look of it.
Post by: Nurse Julie on April 26, 2022, 07:10:47 PM
Post by: ComfySofa on April 26, 2022, 07:27:20 PM
Post by: K2-K6 on April 26, 2022, 07:34:02 PM
Other questions that ive got....
I want to fit a MotoGadget MUnit...anyone else fitted one to these?...(ive already got the electronic ignition conversion) along with LED replacements where possible.....the idea is to modernize it but without affecting the look of it.
Can't immediately find it, but a previous project on here used motogadget setup and will show that experience on a 550 I seem to recall.
Post by: ComfySofa on April 26, 2022, 07:53:47 PM
Post by: Laverdaroo on April 26, 2022, 08:27:59 PM
The thread you refer to is eight0 and his thread calld, "What have i let myself in for"
I have a brand new MUnit blu in the box for sale if you havent already got one as its surplus to requirements. there's s few things Ill do differntly tis time but on the whople it was a fairly easy installation but really satisfying.
Double Fonzy thumbs up from me.
Post by: ComfySofa on April 26, 2022, 08:29:54 PM
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Post by: taysidedragon on April 27, 2022, 12:35:55 AM
Post by: andy120t on May 05, 2022, 06:23:47 AM
https://rupesrewires.com/gavins-cb550-cafe-racer/
If these links work, there are a couple of 550 looms with m- units which might be of interest.
Post by: Laverdaroo on May 05, 2022, 11:36:32 AM
I'm going to put this M unit Blu I Have on Flea Bay as I need to get some forks bought to replace mine and its both legs so if you're interested I need £265 inc postage. If I dont hear anything I'll get it on there. Anybody else interested,l et me know.
Cheers :)
Post by: ComfySofa on August 31, 2022, 06:19:04 PM
As i say and stress if any of the veterans on here can give me some pointers on the next best parts to fit im all ears! and eyes.
And once again Bryan - take a bow - if i didnt find you i dont think it would have ever gotten built again!!!
Cheers
Andy
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Post by: Laverdaroo on August 31, 2022, 08:37:34 PM
Post by: ComfySofa on August 31, 2022, 09:07:14 PM
Oh - do you still have the MUnit?
Post by: Laverdaroo on August 31, 2022, 09:31:31 PM
Sorry, I sold it just last week, a good job as I found the receipt and saw that what i was asking was quite a bit less than I paid for it. I just broke even in the end. Louis Moto have them in stock as do a few others, you should be able to find one pretty easily but shop around as they vary in price quite a bit. If you can get it down to near 300 quid you're doing well. Apologies for that, had to shift it on to pay for more spares........you know how that goes! ::) :-[
Post by: ComfySofa on August 31, 2022, 09:46:41 PM
Post by: Laverdaroo on August 31, 2022, 10:00:37 PM
If you are going down the M unit route, order the delux wiring kit from Revival cycles in the states. Their pack is far superior than others sold on ebay, internet etc. Every wire has it stamped on it at various intervals what its for which will help you immensely when doing the install from scratch, especially if youve not done it before. The only thing not on the wiring diagram I got from them was no provision for oil pressure switch and no neutral but once i'd got that far I'd sussed it nd some help of one of the users was invaluable. Just going back to revival cycles, their fitting videos are brilliant, as is their kit. Also watch Classic Octane on You tube, he does a great video on how to hook the m unit up onto a 550 including keeping the switches as is and using them into the mix. Really useful.
The wiring kit is a must though it's absolutely spot on.
Post by: ComfySofa on August 31, 2022, 10:21:32 PM
Post by: Laverdaroo on August 31, 2022, 11:31:18 PM
I really enjoyed it and looking forward to fettling the 550 :)
Post by: ComfySofa on September 04, 2022, 05:23:32 PM
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Post by: ComfySofa on September 04, 2022, 10:03:43 PM
Im planning to go the motogadget route....does anyone know where i can get the bullet connectors so i can crimp wires to go on all the exisiting switchgear etc etc...?
Post by: Oddjob on September 05, 2022, 12:05:00 AM
Post by: Matt_Harrington on September 05, 2022, 09:53:43 AM
https://kojaycat.co.uk/epages/950000457.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/950000457/Categories (https://kojaycat.co.uk/epages/950000457.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/950000457/Categories)
I tend to crimp and solder....
Matt
Post by: ComfySofa on September 05, 2022, 11:07:26 AM
Post by: ComfySofa on September 05, 2022, 11:08:20 AM
Another alternative would be to use a master cylinder off another Honda, like the later GL1000 which has the brake switch on the master cylinder.
Cheers - as ive got literally no budget set aside for this im trying to use what i can/keep it oem looking....does the GL1000 master look like the 400/4 one?
Post by: Bryanj on September 05, 2022, 01:28:25 PM
Post by: ComfySofa on September 05, 2022, 01:39:52 PM
Early GL yes, later onr has clear reservoir
Clear is ok - trying to keep the aesthetic...right as it were...! cheers.
Post by: Bryanj on September 05, 2022, 01:57:50 PM
Post by: ComfySofa on September 05, 2022, 03:59:23 PM
Seen a few on ebay = none that i can see with the switch...or is it built in (not the end of the world) as the current setup is ok for the moment...
Post by: Sesman on September 05, 2022, 04:21:43 PM
Post by: Oddjob on September 05, 2022, 04:37:55 PM
Post by: ComfySofa on September 06, 2022, 12:00:26 PM
Another question....is there anyone on here thats done a Motogadget conversion on here and if so - do they have any pics of the installation?
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on September 06, 2022, 12:50:53 PM
https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-views/advice/bike-maintenance/guide-to-motorcycle-electrics/motorcycle-electrics-explained-motogadget-m-unit
Post by: Oddjob on September 06, 2022, 12:52:07 PM
The later version which has the switch has a clear/opaque reservoir and isn't that easy to find, I looked yesterday on Ebay. It was fitted to the GL1000K3 and is part number 45500-431-611. https://www.cmsnl.com/honda-gl1000k3_model50510/cyln-frmaster_45500431611/
Also seems to have been fitted to the CX500, that's a common bike and may make it easier to find.
Just found a couple on Ebay, seems it hasn't got the clear reservoir, looks like your current one except it does have the switch you need. Example ONLY.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334439026578?hash=item4dde1e8f92:g:QnIAAOSw~9tifUec&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAsD3bl8kLqkCUqn1hnNIVSGmeYsUpSUa3D7P41c4%2BvVlu%2BKGqBvXN9izMQ0LYbxfE7g7m2v2f%2BUzUttQevWk%2Bkbf60C9z2mrhLW36JB%2BnfDcMfPLAsTyiG6HqAYaer5qm95j0%2BlkeHEUvHiTdzi87VzXeyUczAskURTs%2F3pNREelPU5hSW9GoeDxq79gzgqoZD7crKsAUO4RiuCP624IyhtCocNOqeh3pgu7qcdNcdCrT%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR-KxtariYA
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/325194420811?hash=item4bb719124b:g:IiYAAOSwt2dihQbi&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAsHUuGgAx0jV8z6IR8yj7zgA0aGfjOJyAZFUuBPouUNXHo8cemYMz798lawO%2Fqz%2FYgfgAcNe5ny0PB6z3T5fLQi7KVDPQ4IChf%2Bxcsp5xSvQcUwhjIc%2BgrFPjyPbCFmqxuHHO3o6npPDyyoKs%2F4EyxYR2Ajv1ZdOHuFg3ix6AYaTYcY%2FQUYBiBPVgF7zXm33HEbwKo3xwVJ7Ikmjvfhmh4ySptb6q8%2BAkTDaXdgNeBFJD%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR-CxtariYA
A 1978 GL1000 MC, with clear res,
https://www.ebay.com/itm/373625828559
Roo is going to the states later this week, maybe he can have a look in the scrapyard for you. All you need is a round top MC with a brake switch.
Post by: Sesman on September 06, 2022, 01:48:43 PM
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Post by: Nurse Julie on September 06, 2022, 04:19:41 PM
Yes, I’m using the pressure switch at the down pipe union. Pardon my ignorance, but what’s the bolt for under the lever pivot?It's an anti rattle aid, a bit of rubber tube that stops the lever rattling.
Post by: Oddjob on September 06, 2022, 05:51:06 PM
Post by: Laverdaroo on September 06, 2022, 05:56:14 PM
Post by: ComfySofa on September 07, 2022, 03:53:42 PM
Post by: Bryanj on September 07, 2022, 04:11:32 PM
Post by: ComfySofa on September 07, 2022, 04:14:33 PM
Post by: ComfySofa on September 07, 2022, 04:16:28 PM
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on September 07, 2022, 05:12:38 PM
Having said that are there somesort aftermarket coils available....a long time ago when i was running a 7/11GSXR Dyna coils were the ones to have.....couple of spade connectors and push twist fitting for the HT's....does that kind of thing still exist?
I used Dyna coils on my 400 with their electronic ignition.
TBH I was not aware of Ash's fix at that time.
Post by: ComfySofa on September 07, 2022, 06:14:43 PM
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on September 07, 2022, 06:35:14 PM
ok - before i go down that route does anyone have a link...?
If you click onto Aladins Cave at the top then select CB400 its listed there.
Post by: Oddjob on September 07, 2022, 07:17:45 PM
Wish I could find it now. Tried searching but the search function on this site sucks.
Post by: ComfySofa on September 07, 2022, 07:57:47 PM
https://shop.dynatekuk.com/dc2-1-458-p.asp
Post by: ComfySofa on September 11, 2022, 12:13:27 PM
cheers to anyone that replies.!
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on September 11, 2022, 12:20:34 PM
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Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on September 11, 2022, 01:13:51 PM
Post by: ComfySofa on September 11, 2022, 01:19:44 PM
Just being nit picky, but shouldn’t that pin be through the other way with the split pin on the inside of the arm. I seem to recall that the pin has a flat that nestles in a recess in the arm?
Yep - youre absolutely right....ill change it in a min...( just having a bite to eat!) - this is why i post so people can pick me up on my mistakes!! cheers sir...thanks.
Post by: ComfySofa on September 11, 2022, 01:20:28 PM
I put some clear plasic pipe over the spring to stop it wearing into the paintwork - position looks good - my pin is on the outside like yours as that's how mine was.
Cool...clear plastic pipe....check (got some of that...)!
Post by: Laverdaroo on September 11, 2022, 01:22:26 PM
Post by: Oddjob on September 11, 2022, 01:23:51 PM
Doesn't look right to me, the pivot arm is not positioned right, it should be a lot more upright, you may find the threaded part at the rear is way too far through the brake lever arm. You may also find having it that low means the spring is hardly tensioned so it doesn't return the setup as strongly as it should.
Check the brake lever for punch marks, the mark lines up with a similar one on the pivot arm.
Ted is correct is saying the split pin should be visible but the brake rod is fitted upside down, the part with the ridge for the pin to locate into goes on the inside as Phil says.
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on September 11, 2022, 03:14:20 PM
Doesn't look right to me, the pivot arm is not positioned right, it should be a lot more upright, you may find the threaded part at the rear is way too far through the brake lever arm. You may also find having it that low means the spring is hardly tensioned so it doesn't return the setup as strongly as it should.
I suspect it looks like that as the rod is not yet attached at the other end to the brake hub or the drum link/stop arm is not yet connected?
Post by: Oddjob on September 11, 2022, 03:55:37 PM
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Post by: ComfySofa on September 11, 2022, 08:52:06 PM
Post by: ComfySofa on September 29, 2022, 09:15:20 AM
Can anyone recommend a lithium battery please....? Im going the motogadget route and wanted to partner up with a lithium jobbie!
Cheers
PS ( I need to upload some more photos as its come on a little bit since i last posted!)
Post by: K2-K6 on September 29, 2022, 10:04:28 AM
Post by: ComfySofa on September 29, 2022, 10:14:15 AM
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on September 29, 2022, 10:15:39 AM
Charging on Lithium might be a consideration in terms of alternator voltage.
Post by: ComfySofa on September 29, 2022, 10:18:03 AM
Post by: Matt_Harrington on September 29, 2022, 12:29:25 PM
Matt
Post by: Johnny4428 on September 29, 2022, 12:46:10 PM
What benefits do you get from the Lithium batteries (excluding the weight advantage)?
Matt
Bit lighter on the back pocket. 🤣🤣
Post by: ComfySofa on September 29, 2022, 01:11:47 PM
What benefits do you get from the Lithium batteries (excluding the weight advantage)?
Matt
Size - anti gravity batteries are about 2/3rds the size....give me room for wiring and placement of other components...
Post by: Lobo on September 29, 2022, 01:45:36 PM
https://shoraipower.com/lfx14a5-bs12-backorder--p74
It was not particularly undersized - so not sure if it’ll fit your bill.
To the nay sayers I’ve now had 3 LiFe in 1970s Hondas - and had no issues…. have just installed #3 in the ‘750 restoration.
The advantages are obviously weight, but more than that longevity. The LiFe’s I bought in 2015 are still going strong - one has the arduous job of cranking a Moto Guzzi 1280cc Griso. The other + is that they tend not to discharge if idle, meaning your old Honda should crank fine if left 12 months. (obviously if you’ve alarms / clocks etc fitted there would be an issue)
So cost… perhaps 1.5x. But outweighed by longevity and minimal pita once fitted - for me. (They are less tolerant of mis-set VRs, and really should only be subjected to a 14-15v charging range - so the electric system has to be in good fettle)
Post by: philward on September 29, 2022, 02:25:34 PM
Expensive but the smallest, best quality for set output - but expensive. Here is the high cranking amp one I bought on eBay (very small and light)
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/293529841815
Post by: ComfySofa on November 04, 2022, 09:20:15 AM
Post by: ComfySofa on November 04, 2022, 09:28:25 AM
Ill be in the garage on Sunday. Got the exhaust system to fit. Ive continued to get parts in. The Motogadget Munit has arrived along with a load of various coloured wires for building the loom.
That being said i have an electrical related question....as you can see from the previous pics the engine is in....but to that end when i start the wiring i need a good ground - so one thing i "think" ive got to do is to unbolt the engine and sand off where the engine touches the frame so the ground runs through the engine and frame....can anyone advise.?
And, once again, thanks to Brian again for the engine and carb work - without you i would not be where i currently am.
Post by: ComfySofa on November 04, 2022, 09:30:08 AM
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Post by: taysidedragon on November 04, 2022, 10:40:34 AM
The standard spacers on a 400f are 2 different sizes. Yours both look like the long one, the other onecshould be shorter.
Post by: ComfySofa on November 04, 2022, 11:05:04 AM
Post by: Laverda Dave on November 04, 2022, 11:28:17 AM
His contact details are David Hunt, 01932 786030 (evenings and weekends or leave a message).
Last time I was at Kempton Park I noticed he had a single set for the 400 and another set for the 500 (with the half chrome shrouds). If you need a set get in quick!
Post by: ComfySofa on November 04, 2022, 11:31:12 AM
Post by: Deano400 on November 04, 2022, 11:42:00 AM
Looks like they are out of stock at the moment.
Post by: Laverdaroo on November 04, 2022, 11:44:01 AM
I couldnt get any at all last year for either of ours here. They say they wont be making anymore.
IAlan Kelly on here bought a really nice set of piggy back res,YSS unitslast year, they look great!
I have a set of chrome ones with a black spring if you get desperate, up for grabs.
Post by: ComfySofa on November 04, 2022, 12:12:17 PM
https://www.nitron.co.uk/buy-online/motorcycles/honda/cb750-rc42/honda-cb-750-rc42-ntr-r3-twin-shocks
Or going back to the Tec site this...
https://www.tecbikeparts.com/product/tec-adjustable-length-gas-shock-absorbers-honda-cb500-cb550-four-sohc/
Post by: Laverdaroo on November 04, 2022, 12:26:16 PM
Post by: ComfySofa on November 04, 2022, 12:33:23 PM
Post by: Laverdaroo on November 04, 2022, 02:06:28 PM
Post by: ComfySofa on November 04, 2022, 02:22:16 PM
Funnily enough i dont drink, never smoked and pretty well spend #@%$ all on anything apart from bikes! :)
Post by: Laverdaroo on November 04, 2022, 02:26:38 PM
Bikes are only for cool people remember! ;D ;D
I was looking intoa front end upgrade on the VFR and was looking at Ktech,.....................I'm saving up ::)
Post by: ComfySofa on November 04, 2022, 02:34:41 PM
Post by: Laverdaroo on November 04, 2022, 02:43:06 PM
To that end, I managed to find a really nice second hand unit from a guy in the states that had come of a crashed 2006 VTEC. As it was in the states, I had it sent to a chap who will match the spring to your girth, rebuild it with seals and new internals meaning i can keep the manual adjuster. With everything all in, I paid $250 for the rebuild, $124 for the shock and it was just postage on top. The fact that I can now adjust not only the preload but the rebound also means the bike should be transformed once fitted later in the year. I've done all the brakes with steel lines, new clutch, pads, service, the lot. Just waitong to get the fork internals and its back end swap, possibly January. Need to get the 550 rolling first.
Post by: ComfySofa on November 04, 2022, 02:54:39 PM
Post by: Laverdaroo on November 04, 2022, 03:00:22 PM
Best two weeks Ive ever had! What a place :) 8)
Post by: Laverdaroo on November 04, 2022, 03:06:47 PM
I never liked the RSV's when they came out as Aprillia were a bit plastic compaired to the build quality of the Honda's at the time but I always fancied one of the later ones as the sound track was/is brilliantanf they're a fair weapon.
Still might but gotta clear the decks first, one money pit at a time
Post by: ComfySofa on November 04, 2022, 03:40:26 PM
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on November 04, 2022, 04:07:22 PM
If I had the dosh, Iwould do exctly the same, I hd a Nitron on my 853, it was an incredible bit of kit,just wish I could afford one for the VFR!
I put a Nitron on my VFR800 back in the day.
God that swingarm was heavy!
Post by: Laverdaroo on November 04, 2022, 04:42:49 PM
If I had the dosh, Iwould do exctly the same, I hd a Nitron on my 853, it was an incredible bit of kit,just wish I could afford one for the VFR!
I put a Nitron on my VFR800 back in the day.
God that swingarm was heavy!
Ive a complete new rear end to go on it which is part built up andj ust some seals and the shock o mount on it once in. Ive been slowly collecting nice, clean parts including the hub, bearings and seals, for ages. Steady away.
I dont want it laid up for long as its my 'go to' bike so the plan is to whip one out, monster clean up of the rear end, new pipes as mine are finaly starting to go and insert a complete refreshed, swing arm. It means I can do all the prep first and swap unit for unit without it being on the bench for ages getting in the way.
Also my shed has a wood floor meaning that with Rose, (VFR) on it, its a bit unstable because she's a bit of a fatty so this will get done on the floor meaning its a bit tight and I hate grovelling about so the faster the better for me!
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Post by: ComfySofa on November 04, 2022, 08:01:27 PM
Cheers
Post by: Nurse Julie on November 04, 2022, 08:35:14 PM
OOh - just remembered (another question) is there a way of bonding an earth cable between the engine and frame...or is there another way of doing it...? (i was going to lift the engine and sand some of the powder coating away so where the engine connects to the frame (so its earthed where the bolts go through)There are quite a few earthing points on the frame / bike but you just need to remove the powder coat so the bolt and washer hits 100% metal and not powder.
Cheers
Post by: ComfySofa on November 04, 2022, 08:42:16 PM
Thanks very much.
Post by: Sesman on November 04, 2022, 09:14:33 PM
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Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on November 05, 2022, 09:50:03 AM
Post by: ComfySofa on November 05, 2022, 09:52:22 AM
Yes, negative battery lead connection point.
Just to quote (so run a lead the length of the bike from the battery to the front triangle engine mounts)?
Post by: Oddjob on November 05, 2022, 12:12:11 PM
Post by: ComfySofa on November 05, 2022, 12:13:54 PM
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on November 05, 2022, 12:20:20 PM
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Post by: ComfySofa on November 05, 2022, 12:26:26 PM
Post by: Oddjob on November 05, 2022, 12:37:20 PM
You can always trap the earth point between the engine bracket and the engine, so behind the bracket not in front, that way it makes a really good contact with the engine casing.
Post by: ComfySofa on November 05, 2022, 12:40:12 PM
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Post by: ComfySofa on November 05, 2022, 01:02:57 PM
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on November 05, 2022, 01:10:25 PM
Supposed to point upward Ted and the cable should be straight not all curled up like that. I'm currently making some new ones for my bikes, red for the positive lead to the starter solenoid and black for the earth lead and the starter motor cable.
You can always trap the earth point between the engine bracket and the engine, so behind the bracket not in front, that way it makes a really good contact with the engine casing.
I know Ken but I did not want to risk messing up the cable end by straightening it - when I bought the bike it was attached to the rectifier mounting bolt!
Post by: ComfySofa on November 05, 2022, 01:39:20 PM
Post by: Bryanj on November 05, 2022, 04:31:59 PM
Post by: ComfySofa on November 05, 2022, 04:33:33 PM
Yeah - the triangle bit is in good condition - i had it powder coated.!
Post by: Oddjob on November 05, 2022, 04:33:38 PM
Ted with that much excess cable in the bend is the battery neg cable too long? They normally are a fairly snug fit.
Post by: Bryanj on November 05, 2022, 04:35:13 PM
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Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on November 05, 2022, 05:53:17 PM
There is the thick looking cable that Teds pictured, that connects to the negative pole on the battery, there is also a loom earth normally located at the coils.
Ted with that much excess cable in the bend is the battery neg cable too long? They normally are a fairly snug fit.
It's what came with the bike Ken tbh I saw no point in changing it.
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My z1000: not so bad but most of the bike bar the frame and engine has been either coated in cerakote or powder coat. 90% of the fixings are now either stainless or Ti...as a result it comes through the winter for the last 8 years or so unscathed...
Hypermotard....only the frame and swing arm hasnt been done...the engine has been cerakoted - everything else powder coated cerakoted. All fixings are ether ti or St. Its been a fair bit of work...when i got it about 5 years ago everything was corroded - engine paint peeling off was the worst...
RSV4: surprisingly has been the best....they built it primarily with stainless fixings and only a handful of parts have needed recoating...its a 59 plate but in pretty good nick...
Stickler for coatings and fixings i am but, from a longevity point of view it pays off...
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The Brake plate...if you mean the bit that the brake shoes are fitted to it was bead blasted. The whole engine has been done as well.
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Post by: Laverdaroo on November 06, 2022, 04:45:47 PM
Even the tappet covers were done at the same time. Came out well
That’s the clear straight on top of the bead blast finish.
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Here's the Hyper motor...
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Now thats a motor 8)
You must have some brass, I used to fit Renault Clio 1.4 cam belts on my ducatis up to the 748/853. I see you have monster pockets to put Ducati's own on there...........nice ;D ;)
Wicked lump that, looks great.
Post by: ComfySofa on November 06, 2022, 04:52:17 PM
As far as my other half is concerned it cost a grand!
Post by: Matt_Harrington on November 06, 2022, 04:54:04 PM
I did the 400 in clear cerekote after beadblasting as the ally tarnishes a bit which is a pain but it is 40 odd years old. The engone came out mint. This is just before I bobbed it in the frame and put the carbs on for a 'ooooo, look at that' moment.Roo, just so I am clear (!) The engine was bead blasted and then clear Cerakoted? I was perhaps under the misapprehension you used a silver Cerakote.... ???
Matt
Post by: ComfySofa on November 06, 2022, 04:56:03 PM
Post by: Laverdaroo on November 06, 2022, 05:03:13 PM
I did the 400 in clear cerekote after beadblasting as the ally tarnishes a bit which is a pain but it is 40 odd years old. The engone came out mint. This is just before I bobbed it in the frame and put the carbs on for a 'ooooo, look at that' moment.Roo, just so I am clear (!) The engine was bead blasted and then clear Cerakoted? I was perhaps under the misapprehension you used a silver Cerakote.... ???
Matt
The400 was in clear cerecote, I went for a silver on the 550 I'm doing now. I wanted a slightly more, 'not painted' look on the 400. Really stoked with the colour but equally chuffed with the 550 and the brightness of it, it suits what Im dong with it. It was easier for me to do that than paint it anyway, i dont have ovens, hot boxes or the like and if you give it to nathan, It's all done and to a great standard and I can be getting on with something else.
I did the 748/853 over 2 years as a mental challenge after a split up. Best Mechano set Ive ever built. Yours might not tarnish as your ducati cases are not that old and I would have thought, of a different mix of metal. Youve got some goodies stuck on that, love it, how does it go or havent you got it rigged up yet?
Post by: Laverdaroo on November 06, 2022, 05:06:21 PM
A lot brighter as I’m putting more shiny bits on this one
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As an old boss of mine said "Him what dont make mistakes dont do anything!" We all make em just not all own up to em
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Post by: ComfySofa on January 08, 2023, 10:34:08 AM
Leads me to this question - ive not really looked at the electrical stuff that i have....pulled it all apart and stuck it in the cupboard...now im here ive just grabbed the Regulator/Rectifier and im pretty sure mines non standard....
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Wasnt me that changed it (if it was) its been there since Dad owned it....heres what i think is an original...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/312112786263?hash=item48ab5f2b57:g:dKkAAOSwx1BhYCfd&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAsCbAjtsJL2fAg0rAnvJTcDcrrXDrDcfcNeWbjrnm3%2B%2Bu81Yyq8M77yWW1h6WG%2B9MBLPizFFTGrxtUzHjzPH2p8Q47vhOC%2FnuTXykeCQ%2BoodD%2BsutSEB92Bc5vzWN9poCD3XmaKxYX3HNgenihW2GQ0E1P3ikbYd5l9MJ9UN4jTVyaXgZdrgkGnSx1Y6GW1qofdoVQNu%2FGV99DoGOlMn0trYUrBJ8ribvZjhEVEHjwK5C%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4a36I6yYQ
And heres the question....this is a brand spanker...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/232215773585?epid=18017011254&hash=item3611238191:g:sDoAAOSwNgVhcBeP&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAA8P%2FV7FDQwY7%2BFneJGx%2B6LRQagbtLZOc5Kh3%2FmBfQsXg85tQ%2BxU4qLXYdGhv2uvw2%2B56d54HMio1yVucWYuOOnEDGkwSJ3n8WNZfAd1FfuXv3riYFZmcnJIDwegdnJd8%2BI8v9Sk7zbL9PEoLNQVc%2FOVOifnqmtRfj6fAUaK%2Bk5mH175e%2Fa7xvvB9SUNcZ4EmUHDtg4rKwndhnW4ceM8NsOaID6oWFJg%2FbgV5YTTXtdMNQxA35PFkBWktkPiSXSBpG%2BPWM4apshzp7w1%2FVvvY8FHn5M3JJNZ0wCOaND2yhZtFrYKIdgNKb3ddqn4WTVeihpg%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABFBMhrfojrJh
Ive got a JMT lithium battery for it so wondered if im ok with my one i have here or, whats the advantage of the brand new one (does it deal with Lithium batteries any better?)
The reason i ask is i dont want to spend any extra if i dont have to......theres always been a long running argument on the Duc forum regarding OEM R/R's with lithium batteries...personally ive got lithium batteries in all my bikes - never had an issue with them and they are all on stock R/R's....what says you lot?
Post by: ComfySofa on January 08, 2023, 11:02:36 AM
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RR at the top left - ive bought a set of plug to lengthen the OEM RR up to the tray....i wont commit to drilling holes until you lot give me the go-ahead..!
Post by: Sesman on January 08, 2023, 11:05:41 AM
Post by: Bryanj on January 08, 2023, 12:13:36 PM
Just to add the first ebay is for a 400 twin which did have a combined unit and if you want to use a lithium battery you need a better, so more expensive, regulator to keep the charging voltagemore within the batterys limits, the standard Honda one is to course a setting
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Post by: Laverdaroo on January 09, 2023, 01:51:34 PM
Get one bought
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Post by: Matt_Harrington on January 09, 2023, 02:23:42 PM
I’m just starting to do mine Tim, I believe Andy’s is a blue unit same as mine. The one I fitted to the400 was great to fit and works perfectly, really chuffed with it.
Get one bought
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Post by: Nurse Julie on January 15, 2023, 02:09:36 PM
In the garage pottering.... As its a few years since this came apart and I'm replacing the whole loom... Wots dis then.? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230115/c41a764871d16c6826ce18cfb591e04f.jpg)It's the fuse box, open it up and there will be 3 active fuses and 2 spares.
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Post by: ComfySofa on January 15, 2023, 02:23:19 PM
Post by: ComfySofa on January 15, 2023, 02:24:13 PM
But you won’t need it for the M unit as it has integral protection inside. Ideally you need to mount it to something metal as it earths through the mounting points so if it being mounted to a plastic box say, the system won’t work.
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Yep - my theory was to connect a ground from the engine/frame to the munit? (is that not good enough?)
Post by: Laverdaroo on January 15, 2023, 04:25:46 PM
Post by: Matt_Harrington on January 15, 2023, 05:36:52 PM
If you're dead set on using the Munit in that tray I think I would be tempted to cut a thin sheet of steel the same size as that tray, mount the Munit to the steel and run the earth from your frame to the plate. Nice and tidy and keeps things held in better with less tension and vibration.Roo, I agree with that.
Without looking at the bike, is there any room to put the M unt where the fuse box was?
Post by: ComfySofa on February 12, 2023, 02:16:01 PM
1. RegRec connected (whether it actually works ive no idea)!
2. Starter button working.
Annnnddd...thats about it...doing the simple stuff first...ive been following an munit wiring video on youtube but fucking no idea how to do the headlight with the stock switchgear so ive resorted to hot wiring a bulb with a couple of cable attached to it....if the light comes on....then i guessed right!
Oh....the horn...where does that bolt to? (thats another simple one i thinki could do..)
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on February 12, 2023, 02:41:43 PM
This is a cleverly-marketed German device that claims to simplify your custom wiring job. Available in normal (£213) or Bluetooth (£310) spec, it acts (among other things) as a fuse box, flasher unit and power distribution device. But perhaps the main idea is that it can receive signals from all the handlebar switches through a single wire, rather than the more usual bundle. As most people freak out at electrics, it sounds a tempting proposition.
The single-wire thing works fine, but only with a doohickey called an M-Button (£45), which you connect to the switches and hide in the handlebars – not always an easy task. It then uses can-bus technology to send the different signals down the single cable to the M-Unit, which typically lives under the seat.
Most people also use push-button switchgear with an M-Unit (typically made by Motogadget, Motone or ISR). But OE switches can work too.
I should say that you don’t have to use the M-Button; you can connect push-button switchgear directly to the M-Unit via a conventional bundle of wires. As they run under the tank anyway, you aren’t going to see them.
Motogadget M Unit Blue
I have a bit of a problem with the M-Unit system. Not only is it more complicated, expensive and fiddly to assemble than a conventional switchgear setup; the push-button switches use screw connections just like the ones in a domestic plug. I’ve seen these come undone on an iron, so they hardly seem suitable on a vibrating bike. Push-button switchgear has a couple of other drawbacks too – see switchgear in our guide to motorcycle electrics. The cheaper of the two M Units (the V2, £213) uses screw connections as well, but the newer M-Unit Blue (£310) is a bit more civilised, with spring contacts.
I refer to the below text as per my previous post link.
To protect the copper cable strands from the screws Motogadget supply little ferrules, like you get on the end of a bicycle gear cable, but I’ve never found there to be enough in the packet. I’m afraid it doesn’t stop there; the M Unit is predicated on the idea that you switch the entire bike on with one set of contacts. On some bikes (for example the ZXR400/750, CBX1000, W650), turning the ignition switch also connects part of the charging system. In other words, you need two separate sets of contacts to be on when you’re running, and off when you’re not. I’ve asked Motogadget’s tech support about this and they couldn’t advise me. You can work around it with a separate switch or relay, or use one of the ‘Aux’ connections, but it’s hardly ideal.
My advice is to ask yourself the question: what problems do you anticipate your custom bike will have that an M-Unit will solve? If you want to vary your indicator flash rate, or the pulsing of your brake light, or turn your bike on with your phone, then go for it. If you just want a bike with working lights, horn and ignition, save your money.
Post by: Laverdaroo on February 12, 2023, 03:14:27 PM
If you want an easy to take off, bolt on system then go for the OE loom, if you want a few more options and to do away with loads of un needed stuff the M unit is spot on. They're not £300 plus if you shop about and really easy to fit. I'm on the phone to Andy later re his so we can have a chat. Honestly, the Munit's are really good. Yes you can have keyless, yes you can have one wire this and that but YOU DONT HAVE TO!
It has a diagnostice setting showing everything and and draw down from individual circuits and a heap of other features but its good. I have an M button on the 400 but not on the 550.
FOR EXAMPLE........
Feed from switch to INPUT on the Munit from headlight light (for example) with the switch grounded.
Earth from light to Frame or similar
Feed from Munit OUTPUT to the light
tap switch, light comes from, tap again, light goes off..............simples!
Inputs on one side of frame, outputs on the other, keeps the wiring tidy, theres far less of it and easier for fault finding. If ever there's a fault it's a grounding fault and easily found. The screws dont come undone and have a plastic lock washer incorperated into the set up so never vibrate loose, already proved that one having a unit fitted to a DR350 which is green laned often by a pal. He has had zero issues with it.
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on February 12, 2023, 04:16:19 PM
I seem to be treading on everyone's toes today with my blather.🫣
Post by: ComfySofa on February 12, 2023, 07:11:56 PM
Ted: in response to why ive gone down this route....
1. less wiring.
2. No fusebox.
3. I want to utilize LED lighting (this fits the Munits m.o. perfectly)
4. The amount of times ive come across old bikes on the side of the road dead due to electrics....i wanted, not, to be that person....just to add ive got a digital ignition to add at a later date..
5. The built in alarm.
Its my old mans bike...he passed away 10 years ago now...it doesnt really need them but itll be getting a set of Nitron rear shocks...why, i just want them...its kind of a resto mod...the munit is kinda part of that.....i full expect to hopefully get it working and then at a later date probably refine it as its the first time ive done it....
Post by: Laverdaroo on February 12, 2023, 07:15:26 PM
I was quoting Rupert Paul whoever he is Roo.
I seem to be treading on everyone's toes today with my blather.🫣
AAhh, thats why its tosh then ;D ;D
Give over yer miserable ol bugger, clean something or find summut to do and stop being grumpy ;D
Post by: ComfySofa on February 12, 2023, 09:09:53 PM
I was quoting Rupert Paul whoever he is Roo.
I seem to be treading on everyone's toes today with my blather.🫣
Rupert Paul used to be a journo on performance bikes 25 odd years ago....i think he now runs his own company called "Rupe's Re-Wires"
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on February 13, 2023, 11:25:09 AM
I will be interested to see some photos of the wiring system as it progresses using the Motogadget Box system - presumably there will be an interface at the handlebar an M button?.
The 500 seems to have little built in protection with just one fuse so on reflection it looks an interesting option if you have the wiring ability.
My wiring skills might lead to a spaghetti junction look without being able to get a handle on how it looks in practice.
Post by: ComfySofa on February 13, 2023, 11:36:45 AM
Left to my own devices yesterday as i said before somethings have started to click and i can start to see, the simplicity of the way the MUnit works...
Post by: K2-K6 on February 13, 2023, 12:36:16 PM
Original would route power to a bulb, for example, by going from battery supply, through the bar switch , then to the bulb. open/close the switch and you cut/connect that route. So very simple on/off status.
M unit, has route from battery supply, through solid state switch (inside M unit) then onward to bulb. That solid state switch interrupts the supply, but its "called" by the remote handlebar switch to ask it to go on/off, hence the bar switch needs only to handle a signal voltage and not full load. Which is why those operating wires are small.
It's effectively all a relay system, the M unit, with power handled by the primary wires, then an overlay of command switching telling the unit what you want it to do with light duty signal system.
Both are reliable if all built properly and connected well. No particular advantage either way as the whole system is not actually controlling much on these bikes.
Post by: K2-K6 on February 13, 2023, 01:13:31 PM
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Post by: Laverdaroo on February 13, 2023, 01:49:39 PM
Heaps tidier and a lot less space consuming and of course all the other benefits of alarm. keyless ignition, tracker, position finder, diagnostic screen for problem solving, 'draw down' real time scematic showing individual draw in voltage for each circuit and trouble shooting auto settings so that if there's an issuewith a circuit it will close and re route to get you home showing clear indication as to where the fault lies and what circuit has the error. It is a really good system if you have no loom to start with or components mssing or even fancy having a go or indeed have made up all the items in your loom, its a really realy good application.
Once all the info is in it will track your milage, advise of milage related service intervals tyre reminders, etc. theres lpads of features i cant remember either but its worth a read.
Ted, watch REVIVAL CYCLES TECH TALK on 'wiring your motorcycle' and ' wiring your revival cycles starter solenoid' (dont buy one from them there 48 quid..........18 over here in the UK.
The wiring kit is dead simple also with every wire printed on it with where it goes and colour coded such as INPUT R IND, OUTPUT R IND, START, HORN etc etc. easy to follow......have a read wiv a brew Ted 8)
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Post by: Laverdaroo on February 13, 2023, 09:41:53 PM
Ted the keyless ignt is just a setting you can have but basically if your using the app and have it coded to the bike as part of the configuration set up, when within 1,2,3,4,5m of the bike you can walk up amd start it without a key and everything works as it should. What happens when your phone goes flat? Use the keythats in my pocket as I do.
You can do heaps with it. For example I go to the app and look at charging system, turn, say, the indocator on and it shows me exactly what Im drawing to make that work on the bike, what effect thats having on my battery, real time and a host of other gubbins. Handy for problem solving etc etc and looking for bad connections as the failing circuit is highlighted as flashing. You just set up via the brief book and in conjunction with the app it works great.
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on February 13, 2023, 10:24:26 PM
Plenty to do before I think about electrics.
Post by: taysidedragon on February 14, 2023, 01:17:33 AM
It works blue tooth to your phone or to your PC. I just use the phone app on the 400 and its really good. If I can work it, it cant be half bad.
Ted the keyless ignt is just a setting you can have but basically if your using the app and have it coded to the bike as part of the configuration set up, when within 1,2,3,4,5m of the bike you can walk up amd start it without a key and everything works as it should. What happens when your phone goes flat? Use the keythats in my pocket as I do.
You can do heaps with it. For example I go to the app and look at charging system, turn, say, the indocator on and it shows me exactly what Im drawing to make that work on the bike, what effect thats having on my battery, real time and a host of other gubbins. Handy for problem solving etc etc and looking for bad connections as the failing circuit is highlighted as flashing. You just set up via the brief book and in conjunction with the app it works great.
Bloody hell! Does it make you a coffee as well? If so, I'll have one. 👍
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on February 14, 2023, 11:20:48 AM
Post by: ComfySofa on July 29, 2023, 05:58:06 PM
A few changes have happened....we tried to use the original switchgear but it was way too hard....so made the jump to Renthal bars and motogadget switch gear....after getting all that sorted out and getting the motogadget buttons working - the penny kinda dropped and a lot of what Laverdaroo had said fell into place so.....ive been getting through the wiring steadily....got indicators, lights, brake lights, ignition switch.... one of my questions is the headlight - is there an led replacement for the front bulb..? getting all the bulbs over to LEDs was on my checklist of subtle restomods.... pictures will follow soon...!
Post by: Multiman on July 29, 2023, 07:07:50 PM
http://www.norbsa02.freeuk.com
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on July 29, 2023, 07:12:14 PM
If you do not know the bulb type a phone call or an online message enquiry should work.
E-bay cheaper versions often fail within days or you get the dreaded LED flicker syndrome.
I found this helpful when I wanted one for our Jeep. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_automotive_light_bulb_types
Sometimes bulb types are listed on headlamp lenzes or in handbooks.
Post by: ComfySofa on July 29, 2023, 07:15:27 PM
Post by: Oddjob on July 29, 2023, 07:17:59 PM
http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,25595.msg234557.html#msg234557
Oh and since I did that thread I have 2 friends who ride with me every Thursday down dark country lanes when Autumn arrives, they both have Harleys and were always complaining about not being able to see that well, it was so bad they'd sit behind me on my 1300 with that headlight bulb fitted just to be able to see, they bought a pair between them and the difference really was night and day, now they are confident and do the leading. They've since passed on the link to all the others at the bike meet and most have bought a pair.
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on July 29, 2023, 07:39:14 PM
Post by: ComfySofa on July 31, 2023, 08:53:46 AM
Post by: ComfySofa on July 31, 2023, 08:58:29 AM
Coupled with the Munit which id say im about 70% through the connectivity part - still got the dummy lights to wire in (no idea how to do that yet) but Roo is helping me with that... and then a tidy up of the loom in general and then tape it all up and maybe separate sections of the loom so it can all be unplugged for working on it...
Post by: ComfySofa on July 31, 2023, 09:14:17 AM
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Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on July 31, 2023, 09:18:05 AM
Went to the site last night...shit - theyve got everything on there havent they! (it looks like theyve even got those tiny little dummy lights in LED's as well) - so assuming they fit ill definately be getting some of those...!
I fitted all LED bulbs on the instruments & panel lights. Choose the colours carefully and you get some great results. I had advice from a member but can't remember who. Green is good for Speedo & Rev counter.
Post by: Matt_Harrington on July 31, 2023, 09:30:37 AM
Post by: ComfySofa on July 31, 2023, 09:42:39 AM
Post by: taysidedragon on July 31, 2023, 09:49:07 AM
Current state of the wiring....not too bad!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230731/aa23da4a86352e3db301009faf99e3f8.jpg)
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Getting there. I assume that the fat red lead coming out of the hole in the frame and down to the solenoid is temporary? Where it routes at the moment is where the rear tank rubber sits so it will get in the way of the tank fixing. It's normally a lot shorter and goes almost direct from starter motor to solenoid. If it is temporary, ignore everything wot I said!
Post by: ComfySofa on July 31, 2023, 09:52:23 AM
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Post by: Laverdaroo on July 31, 2023, 10:12:07 AM
Bell you later Andy
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Post by: ComfySofa on July 31, 2023, 10:23:54 AM
Must confess after yesterdays start up i cant wait to have a go on it again...its been a while..!
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on July 31, 2023, 10:32:10 AM
Just be careful on the length of the bulb as some are too deep to sit in the headlight bucket, especially if you’re going to put connectors in there, it’s mighty tight in there.
Bell you later Andy
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If it helps I think I might have the part numbers from when I bought them from the LED Classic site - send me a PM if you want me to look through my files - they were not too bright as most were coloured but not all.
Post by: ComfySofa on July 31, 2023, 10:52:35 AM
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on July 31, 2023, 11:35:12 AM
That'd be great if you could (i could possibly get them on order today!) - thanks very much.
This invoice shows the ones I bought for my 500 as can't find my previous invoice - the SKU number shows the colour of the LED's
.(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53083671199_9880cc3d2b_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oSPG3k)LED's (https://flic.kr/p/2oSPG3k) by Macabe Thiele (https://www.flickr.com/photos/187487200@N03/), on Flickr
Post by: ComfySofa on July 31, 2023, 11:38:36 AM
Post by: ComfySofa on July 31, 2023, 12:12:08 PM
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on July 31, 2023, 12:38:25 PM
Brilliant - is there one for the headlight? (in that....did you get one?) or should i say are they available?
I fitted the Land Rover LED headlamp unit in a 500 casing - my 400 has a none standard headlamp atm.
Post by: ComfySofa on July 31, 2023, 12:58:33 PM
Post by: Bryanj on July 31, 2023, 01:04:04 PM
With the correct small screwdriver you can undo the screws holding the bowls on and as it wasnt too long ago they should undo to make sure floats are free and will cut fuel off when lifted
Post by: Trigger on July 31, 2023, 01:09:34 PM
That'd be great if you could (i could possibly get them on order today!) - thanks very much.
This invoice shows the ones I bought for my 500 as can't find my previous invoice - the SKU number shows the colour of the LED's
.(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53083671199_9880cc3d2b_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oSPG3k)LED's (https://flic.kr/p/2oSPG3k) by Macabe Thiele (https://www.flickr.com/photos/187487200@N03/), on Flickr
I fitted all LED to my silver 550, all of them blow within 6 month's . I even had to get Ash to make a box of tricks just to keep the LED on the number plate light. Now all back to standard bulbs apart from the number plate light ;)
Post by: Laverdaroo on July 31, 2023, 01:17:24 PM
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Post by: ComfySofa on July 31, 2023, 01:52:01 PM
Could be the float needles stuck, tap the bowls with the handle of a screwdriver to see if it shakes the needles/floate loose.Hey Bryan! nice to hear from you....ill check that tonight! many thanks....its looking amazing by the way...i put the tank on last night temporarily to get it started.. that was a biggie for me...as it almost looks complete.!
With the correct small screwdriver you can undo the screws holding the bowls on and as it wasnt too long ago they should undo to make sure floats are free and will cut fuel off when lifted
Post by: Trigger on July 31, 2023, 02:43:10 PM
This lot on Andy’s is through the M unit so they won’t blow as they would running through old Honda OEM wiring. It’s all new wires going on so shouldn’t have any issues with things going pop.
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Yes, i am aware of that Roo. But, other member do not. On my build i was advised by a member to put all LED's in and he reckoned they were the best thing since sliced bread. He knows who he is and forgot to mention that he had a M-unit and had upgraded every electrical component :o
Post by: ComfySofa on July 31, 2023, 02:52:45 PM
Post by: Trigger on July 31, 2023, 02:53:15 PM
Post by: ComfySofa on July 31, 2023, 02:56:54 PM
Maybe convert yours to motogadget - i am a convert - once id got the hang of it, its wasnt too hard plus its removed (i would say) about 70% of the old wiring and making it more reliable in the process...
Post by: Laverdaroo on July 31, 2023, 06:00:10 PM
I’ve only ever heard of issues trying to plumb in LED’s into old wiring, I was advised never to do it. If you’re going full LED’s it’s basically a rewire job. To save the grief.This lot on Andy’s is through the M unit so they won’t blow as they would running through old Honda OEM wiring. It’s all new wires going on so shouldn’t have any issues with things going pop.
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Yes, i am aware of that Roo. But, other member do not. On my build i was advised by a member to put all LED's in and he reckoned they were the best thing since sliced bread. He knows who he is and forgot to mention that he had a M-unit and had upgraded every electrical component :o
Thankfully the lights on the Viffer are awesome so wouldn’t want to change them in the slightest. Wouldn’t want to go into that lot what with 3 computers, ABS management etc. the harness is a monster on this, I shall never grumble about having lack of access ever again on the CB’s, the Viffer is an utter pig to work on.
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Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on July 31, 2023, 06:37:15 PM
Not electrically related but on starting it last night it was leaking fuel out of the float bowls....nothing to do with Bryan - first and foremost he made the box of sharpnel i gave him look like carbs again for which im eternally grateful - he did say at the time "ive set them as best as i can..." first and foremost its 20+ years since ive messed with carbs and its never turned out well! - is there anything i can adjust while theyre in situ - or do they have to come out for adjustment..?
I've found just shaking the bike from side to side usually fixes it.
Post by: Trigger on July 31, 2023, 07:43:46 PM
From an electrical point of view maybe.... as mine is completely different under the hood (which is what i wanted) - that being said the signature finishing touch for me will be a set of Nitron rear shocks (fully adjustable) when i pay my credit card off! totally not needed as its rolling pig iron but more of an aesthetic finishing touch!
Maybe convert yours to motogadget - i am a convert - once id got the hang of it, its wasnt too hard plus its removed (i would say) about 70% of the old wiring and making it more reliable in the process...
I like to keep things simple and standard. Custom bike builder " Desperate Dan's" never used motogadget back in the 80's, they just used a 10p chocolate block connectors ;)
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on July 31, 2023, 07:45:19 PM
That'd be great if you could (i could possibly get them on order today!) - thanks very much.
This invoice shows the ones I bought for my 500 as can't find my previous invoice - the SKU number shows the colour of the LED's
.(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53083671199_9880cc3d2b_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2oSPG3k)LED's (https://flic.kr/p/2oSPG3k) by Macabe Thiele (https://www.flickr.com/photos/187487200@N03/), on Flickr
I fitted all LED to my silver 550, all of them blow within 6 month's . I even had to get Ash to make a box of tricks just to keep the LED on the number plate light. Now all back to standard bulbs apart from the number plate light ;)
Aside from cheap LEDs a few years back I've had no issue with converting to LED if the contacts are reasonably clean.
My Jeeps an old 55 plate all the festoon bulbs work fine as they did on our previous Jeep.
Post by: Trigger on July 31, 2023, 07:46:57 PM
Post by: Trigger on July 31, 2023, 07:50:31 PM
I’ve only ever heard of issues trying to plumb in LED’s into old wiring, I was advised never to do it. If you’re going full LED’s it’s basically a rewire job. To save the grief.This lot on Andy’s is through the M unit so they won’t blow as they would running through old Honda OEM wiring. It’s all new wires going on so shouldn’t have any issues with things going pop.
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Yes, i am aware of that Roo. But, other member do not. On my build i was advised by a member to put all LED's in and he reckoned they were the best thing since sliced bread. He knows who he is and forgot to mention that he had a M-unit and had upgraded every electrical component :o
Thankfully the lights on the Viffer are awesome so wouldn’t want to change them in the slightest. Wouldn’t want to go into that lot what with 3 computers, ABS management etc. the harness is a monster on this, I shall never grumble about having lack of access ever again on the CB’s, the Viffer is an utter pig to work on.
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Maybe Ash should explain as, he found that they can't be just fitted and built me a box of tricks. He did not build a box of tricks for no reason ;)
Post by: ComfySofa on July 31, 2023, 07:52:46 PM
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on July 31, 2023, 07:53:59 PM
Post by: Trigger on July 31, 2023, 08:01:50 PM
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on July 31, 2023, 08:20:52 PM
Don't believe all you see on U-tube Graham
Post by: Oddjob on July 31, 2023, 08:34:03 PM
I know that indicators LEDs can be a problem but for me it's about buying quality bulbs, get the best and they last.
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on July 31, 2023, 08:36:59 PM
You get what you pay for plus the quality even from China has improved no end.
I have a bedside lamp that pre-dates our house fire in 2017 it is a touch sensitive LED with a plastic casing - still going strong.
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on July 31, 2023, 08:49:15 PM
Your Jeep is a car and not a sohc Honda :o
Car, Bike & House electricity works pretty much the same on all applications. Electricity is not brand aware it's only electrons having a shuffle.
Post by: Trigger on July 31, 2023, 11:15:24 PM
My experience is my experience of LED.
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on July 31, 2023, 11:22:14 PM
As i have already mentioned Ted. I tried and it did not work, and that was with a new loom and everything with replacement new wires.
My experience is my experience of LED.
I accept that was your experience Graham but that does not make others with positive experiences any less valid.
A Honda sohc has what 12 volts DC flowing down a wire can't see how that differs from from any other automotive set up.
Post by: Trigger on July 31, 2023, 11:26:27 PM
As i have already mentioned Ted. I tried and it did not work, and that was with a new loom and everything with replacement new wires.
My experience is my experience of LED.
I accept that was your experience Graham but that does not make others with positive experiences any less invalid.
A Honda sohc has what 12 volts DC flowing down a wire can't see how that differs from from any other automotive set up.
Ask that question to Ash. He is the electronic professor that had to build a box of tricks for two little LED lights to work. I am just a simple Honda engineer ;)
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on July 31, 2023, 11:35:58 PM
Post by: Bryanj on August 01, 2023, 01:50:32 AM
Post by: Oddjob on August 01, 2023, 03:52:19 AM
A good LED these days will actually be soldered to a small PCB, micro small in fact. The resistors and surge protection will on the board, the better the board, the better the LED as a rule. Good boards cost more than bad boards, hence the price difference. Buy good LED bulbs and they'll last, get bad and they may or they may not. When an LED starts strobing you know it's on it's way out, replace before it goes completely.
If you want them to last buy LED bulbs which use SMDs not LEDs, SMDs are surface mounted diodes and are usually much more robust then LEDs, your cars dash is normally SMDs, you don't see them going much do you? Whereas high level brake light repeaters like on the tailgate are normally LEDs and you often see one or 2 of those not working on older cars.
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on August 01, 2023, 09:58:47 AM
I have found that vehicle led bulb standards vary a lot, i have had 501 replacements in both orange and white where some only work one way round and others work both ways round, i have had led headlamps last for years or hours
I agree with you Bryan for the lucrative aftermarket there were/are lot of cheap but unreliable LED's on the market that is price driven.
The headlamp bulbs in our previous Jeep (WJ) had built in cooling fans, iirc they were not polarity specific. Essential that there was plenty of space around the headlamp fittings - an area quite limited on bikes.
Post by: Laverdaroo on August 01, 2023, 01:02:40 PM
Keep us all up to date bud.
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Post by: ComfySofa on August 01, 2023, 01:46:09 PM
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Post by: ComfySofa on August 01, 2023, 08:11:52 PM
On the plus side i got the banjo bolt and the bolt for the lever for the front brake so thats bled and now working. Also worked out how to get the dummy lights working and the backlights for the clocks as well...some of the bulbs are dead but ive got the [shudder to say it] led ones on order....so quite sure i can finish all the electrics from a connectivty point of view.
Might need someone better than me to examine the carbs [Roo] nudge nudge....
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Post by: Laverdaroo on August 01, 2023, 09:35:02 PM
Hoping to have the lump out of the viffer tonight so gonna have a night of Thursday. I could bob up then for a twiddle?
Can’t believe you said the L%D word
Let me know old froot…
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Post by: Nurse Julie on August 01, 2023, 09:48:31 PM
Post by: ComfySofa on August 01, 2023, 10:05:59 PM
Have you checked the fast idle linkage thats attached to the choke, not the main idle adjuster. With the choke off fully the fast idle adjuster should have clearance of 0.012 inch. There is more detail in the manual.No idea what your talking about! I'll have a look at the manual....Im pretty sure I've got nothing that measures in inches! Down that fine!....as I say nothing I've attempted carb related has never turned out well...it usually ends in fuel going everywhere! Many thanks for the pointer though gives me something to look for!
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Post by: ComfySofa on August 01, 2023, 10:06:36 PM
ThGreat if you don't worry if you can't though sir!
Hoping to have the lump out of the viffer tonight so gonna have a night of Thursday. I could bob up then for a twiddle?
Can’t believe you said the L%D word
Let me know old froot…
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Post by: Laverdaroo on August 02, 2023, 12:37:11 AM
I’m up for it bud, I mentioned the idle circuit the other night on the phone but you weren’t getting it. That was Thursday evenings job amongst other Diddles. Don’t fret I’ll bring all the associated gubbins budThGreat if you don't worry if you can't though sir!
Hoping to have the lump out of the viffer tonight so gonna have a night of Thursday. I could bob up then for a twiddle?
Can’t believe you said the L%D word
Let me know old froot…
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Post by: ComfySofa on August 02, 2023, 09:19:39 AM
And ive now got a front brake again (with the new setup) cant remember if i said..!
Post by: Matt_Harrington on August 02, 2023, 09:43:21 AM
If it is the high revs not going back to 1200, then I'd lay money it was a sync issue. I was tinkering last weekend with mine as I have a sync issue and I was staggered the effect the sync has on the running of the engine. Unless someone tells me otherwise, you need a vacuum gauge to get 'em balanced / synced well. Mine are still not right but getting there as I had other things to do so it was 'down tools' for me. I return to them when the weather lets me!
Post by: ComfySofa on August 02, 2023, 10:04:36 AM
Start the bike - tickover is not really steady but lowish....twitch the throttle, bike revs up, stays up but steadily comes down to 4k and sits there....as the engine is cold and its just been rebuilt im shutting it off near straight away...
Does this with the throttle cables disconnected also, so its not that...
Post by: Matt_Harrington on August 02, 2023, 10:19:56 AM
Post by: Multiman on August 02, 2023, 10:34:02 AM
Matt, you are very welcome to borrow them as well.
Post by: Matt_Harrington on August 02, 2023, 10:36:51 AM
Post by: ComfySofa on August 02, 2023, 10:40:57 AM
Comfy, that bloke (rhymes with Pooh) who's coming over to you on Thursday night has my vacuum gauges so get him to bring them over.
Matt, you are very welcome to borrow them as well.
Many thanks sir for the advanced use of the guages....think ill still get some though....that being said its [the honda] has kinda cleaned me out for the moment....my old man would be so happy!! :)
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on August 02, 2023, 11:13:17 AM
It was something he learnt whilst an apprentice at RR Crewe. He taught me the basics but he was so much better than any gauge or meter.
Post by: Matt_Harrington on August 02, 2023, 12:13:36 PM
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on August 02, 2023, 01:10:32 PM
Post by: Matt_Harrington on August 02, 2023, 03:42:41 PM
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Post by: Oddjob on August 02, 2023, 03:47:54 PM
Post by: Matt_Harrington on August 02, 2023, 03:48:49 PM
That's a pic of Roo and his Lizard tongue, common result of all the inbreeding in Yorkshire ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D
Almost spat my tea out!!!
Post by: Laverdaroo on August 02, 2023, 05:04:16 PM
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Post by: ComfySofa on August 03, 2023, 09:57:46 AM
On a side note mines now tax exempt and mot exempt....roo did explain a few weeks back but it was like water off a ducks back...i forgot everything he said...is there a procedure for doing this... ?
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on August 03, 2023, 10:35:13 AM
A bit more completed last night....got the clock lights working along with the dummy indicator lights and the full beam light. Ive ordered an aftermarket headlamp frame so i can drill holes in that to get the led indicators mounted - no idea how to do that yet as its different to my oem one....
On a side note mines now tax exempt and mot exempt....roo did explain a few weeks back but it was like water off a ducks back...i forgot everything he said...is there a procedure for doing this... ?
If you have a full UK registration document & mark:-
You need the Registration Document changed to Historical Class there is a way it will always work - the DVLA website does indicate you can do it at your local post office - this can be hit & miss.
Easiest way is to firstly get the bike insured fill out the standard taxation form (V10 )I think, fill in the change of taxation class on the V5 document, download from DVLA Mot exemption form. (V112)Post it to DVLA make sure you copy everything as they often do not send back your insurance certificate.
My new V5 came back inside 3 weeks - I tried to do it without my insurance cover - new V5 was returned without change of taxation class.
.https://www.gov.uk/historic-vehicles
Post by: ComfySofa on August 03, 2023, 10:55:10 AM
So, first and foremost ive got to insure it? (its not on the road yet) obviously so ive not bothered....
I found this online https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/925057/v112-declaration-of-exemption-from-mot.pdf is that the one? assuming it is its a bit of a weird document in that i just give the reg and sign it...as if to say "yeah its all kosher..." !
1. Insure first.
2. Change state of V5
3. Delare it tax and MOT exempt
Oh it mentions taking a current MOT....that ive not got...ill go through my paperwork but i think ive got one from about 5 years ago when it was on the verge of being sold...
Does that sound right?
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on August 03, 2023, 12:20:02 PM
If you have changed the colour complete that section. If you have a different frame or engine number complete that section but make sure you include some sort of proof of purchase of the item.
I have done this only twice now on my bikes with no issues - the DVLA site implies you do not need Insurance except in N.I. - never worked for me on my 400 tried it two ways via Post Office & DVLA no joy until I included Insurance Certificate.
Post by: ComfySofa on August 03, 2023, 12:22:00 PM
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on August 03, 2023, 12:25:51 PM
Wow - sounds almost too easy...! (the whole bike is oem) all original bar the electrical system (as we all know!) - many thanks....so i dont have to insure it yet? - dont really want to do that until i know its almost finished....theres a little way more to go...
I insured my bike when it was 95% done just to get the Theft Cover in case someone stole it - I sent photos to Insurance Company to get a basic level of assured value cover.
Post by: Oddjob on August 03, 2023, 03:31:12 PM
You will not need an Mot just the completed V112- on the V5C registration document, first inside page on the left section1 "change my vehicle details" in the box headed Tax Class write "Historic Vehicle" in the blue section box.
If you have changed the colour complete that section. If you have a different frame or engine number complete that section but make sure you include some sort of proof of purchase of the item.
I have done this only twice now on my bikes with no issues - the DVLA site implies you do not need Insurance except in N.I. - never worked for me on my 400 tried it two ways via Post Office & DVLA no joy until I included Insurance Certificate.
You'd think these days with all insurance logged online they wouldn't need it anymore, the police know when you are or aren't insured so why not the DVLA, they use the same data bases.
Post by: Laverdaroo on August 03, 2023, 10:39:36 PM
We can discuss Saturday……., what biscuits should we sample this weekend? Let me know and I’ll stop en route to sort out a purchase or are going to go for a mystery item and include cake into the mix???
I’m an ace diabetic me
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Post by: Bryanj on August 03, 2023, 11:45:54 PM
Post by: Laverdaroo on August 04, 2023, 04:31:32 AM
Where from Bryan??
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Post by: Bryanj on August 04, 2023, 05:21:54 AM
Post by: ComfySofa on August 04, 2023, 08:31:24 AM
Ive got the V5 with me in the office today...looking at section 7 (changes to current vehicle) theres nothing about classic status in there....? there is one for "Tax Class" ? (would that be it?)
Post by: Nurse Julie on August 04, 2023, 09:21:53 AM
Post by: ComfySofa on August 04, 2023, 09:27:05 AM
Post by: Matt_Harrington on August 04, 2023, 09:27:27 AM
Yes, Tax Class. Just take it to post office, no MOT or V112 or insurance needed, done instantly on the spot, just remember to SORN it as soon as you get V5 back as its taxed for 12 months as part of the process and if its taxed, it must be insured, SORN it and it doesn't need to be insured (unless of course you're going to ride it on the road straight away)My post office is blinking useless and threw their hands up when I asked them to do it! (something to do with the computer ::) ) So resorted to snail mail.....
And yes, SORN straight away or you get a warning letter from the DVLA ......
Post by: Matt_Harrington on August 04, 2023, 09:28:36 AM
Ah - right - so thats the first stage then....so i have to wait for the V5 to come back to get the "no MOT" and "no need for tax" status...?
I'd bung 'Historic' in the tax class anyway....
Post by: Nurse Julie on August 04, 2023, 09:29:01 AM
Ah - right - so thats the first stage then....so i have to wait for the V5 to come back to get the "no MOT" and "no need for tax" status...?No, the Post Office will give you a receipt for £zero paid and it's legally MOT exempt and registeted as Historic from that moment onwards.
Post by: ComfySofa on August 04, 2023, 09:33:34 AM
Post by: Nurse Julie on August 04, 2023, 09:35:14 AM
Right so it gains the "it doesnt need an mot" status at that point....weve got a Toyota IQ which is tax free but every year i get a car tax renewal but theres no value on there....does it work that way for the Honda?Yes, it needs taxing every year but at £0. Owners think it's tax exempt, it's not, it's just £0 annually for the tax.
Post by: ComfySofa on August 04, 2023, 10:47:11 AM
I think all of you would be best place to give it a value...do your worst!!
Post by: Nurse Julie on August 04, 2023, 10:53:15 AM
There, it's that simple.
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on August 04, 2023, 10:53:42 AM
Ah - right - so thats the first stage then....so i have to wait for the V5 to come back to get the "no MOT" and "no need for tax" status...?
I do not know if it's our local post office or poorly trained staff at the DVLA but until I sent my V5 with a V10 & Insurance the DVLA twice returned mine with a new V5 but they ignored the section where I had filled in the change of taxation to Historic - I just received a new V5 showing the old taxation class.
Before the regional LVLO's were closed Post Offices did not administer changes of taxation class it had to go to DVLA or a LVLO - my Post Office stamped the V5 & sent it to DVLA but they just ignored the changes.
Be interesting to see if it works for you at the Post Office- best of luck.
Post by: ComfySofa on August 04, 2023, 10:57:10 AM
Post by: Nurse Julie on August 04, 2023, 11:09:32 AM
Cheers...i did watch him write "Historic" in the box....he did scan the v5 with a barcode scanner first then said "yeah thats fine" so i guess theres a quick check first to see if it can have that status...DVLA do say on their website take it to the Post Office. DVLA really don't want you to contact them these days, or send anything to them, unless you really have to. 99% of anything to do with motoring is now done either online by yourself or by the Post Office. Even with change of ownership, you now do it on line in less than a minute.
Post by: ComfySofa on August 04, 2023, 11:13:42 AM
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on August 04, 2023, 11:27:20 AM
The outcome appears to be dependent on what action DVLA take when they get the sack of V5's from the Post Office.
https://www.theukrules.co.uk/rules/driving/vehicle-tax/change-tax-class.html#how_to_change
Post by: Nurse Julie on August 04, 2023, 11:35:32 AM
Post by: ComfySofa on August 04, 2023, 11:39:55 AM
Post by: taysidedragon on August 04, 2023, 11:48:16 AM
Would anyone be able to comment on what they think the value of it would be (for insurance purposes) theyre bound to ask..!
£50 and a packet of Jaffa cakes?
Post by: ComfySofa on August 04, 2023, 11:52:54 AM
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on August 04, 2023, 12:16:24 PM
Would anyone be able to comment on what they think the value of it would be (for insurance purposes) theyre bound to ask..!
When I insured my 400 with Peter James iirc they had a threshold for values - the first threshold (was £6k) you only needed to provide some good quality photos to prove condition - for higher agreed values they wanted a professional valuation. Not sure how much a valuation would cost - others here might know.
Post by: ComfySofa on August 04, 2023, 12:26:08 PM
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Post by: Matt_Harrington on August 04, 2023, 12:33:11 PM
Ooo, do they now, they sound filthy!
Where from Bryan??
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Roo, I'm going to report you to Diabetes Anonymous if you don't behave!! ;D ;)
Post by: Nurse Julie on August 04, 2023, 12:36:34 PM
Post by: ComfySofa on August 04, 2023, 12:41:55 PM
Post by: Nurse Julie on August 04, 2023, 12:52:02 PM
Right - well pretty well oem apart from the electrics and the handlebars. That being said ive got everything oem thats come off including all the bolts. I think i might have cut off one bullet connector from the dummy light cluster but thats about it for mods to the OEM...it could be put right back to standard if need be.you won't be able to put it back to standard if its stolen or catches fire 😂😂😂😂
Post by: ComfySofa on August 04, 2023, 02:02:40 PM
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Post by: taysidedragon on August 04, 2023, 07:33:16 PM
I intend to store mine on the ramp, with the ramp raised in the air and with it disabled so it can't be lowered without removing locks etc, don't know how they'd stipulate a ground anchor with that setup.
Chain the bike to the ramp, if the ramp is bolted to the floor it is a massive ground anchor.
Post by: Oddjob on August 04, 2023, 08:30:59 PM
I intend to store mine on the ramp, with the ramp raised in the air and with it disabled so it can't be lowered without removing locks etc, don't know how they'd stipulate a ground anchor with that setup.
Chain the bike to the ramp, if the ramp is bolted to the floor it is a massive ground anchor.
I was thinking of putting fold down legs on the corners of the ramp, pumping it up and then dropping the legs and lowering the ramp until it was resting on the legs, that way if the hydraulic seal goes on the ramp it doesn't suddenly drop.
Post by: Matt_Harrington on August 05, 2023, 08:25:30 AM
I intend to store mine on the ramp, with the ramp raised in the air and with it disabled so it can't be lowered without removing locks etc, don't know how they'd stipulate a ground anchor with that setup.
Chain the bike to the ramp, if the ramp is bolted to the floor it is a massive ground anchor.
I was thinking of putting fold down legs on the corners of the ramp, pumping it up and then dropping the legs and lowering the ramp until it was resting on the legs, that way if the hydraulic seal goes on the ramp it doesn't suddenly drop.
Is there not a safety latch / pin on the ramp?
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on August 05, 2023, 10:02:30 AM
Post by: ComfySofa on August 07, 2023, 03:06:59 PM
Post by: Oddjob on August 07, 2023, 03:15:24 PM
Met him yesterday, damn he's ugly ;) ;) ;) ;) Like Shrek after a stroke
Post by: ComfySofa on August 07, 2023, 03:20:10 PM
Post by: ComfySofa on August 07, 2023, 03:23:14 PM
http://www.steeldragonperformance.com/air_boxes_7.html
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on August 07, 2023, 03:30:20 PM
Is this it??
http://www.steeldragonperformance.com/air_boxes_7.html
If you move away from the standard air intake you will probably need to alter the carburation parameters.
Post by: ComfySofa on August 07, 2023, 03:40:49 PM
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on August 07, 2023, 04:40:29 PM
Only if the back pressure between a replacement air filter system is identical to the original would it run the same - others here will know how to fix any difference.
Post by: Laverdaroo on August 08, 2023, 03:00:13 AM
Shrek? Really. Folk in glass houses and all that Ken.
This is the bestest I could find to what I think Ken’s passport picture looks like……..I kid you not
Description taken from the first line on Wikipedia description
Since the beginning, Uncle Fester has been a barrel-shaped, bald man with a hunch of varying severity. He has dark, sunken eyes and is often seen with a deranged smile.
Spitting image
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Post by: ComfySofa on August 20, 2023, 09:15:58 PM
Made some good headway. After wondering why the oil and neutral lights didnt work and doing a beep test with a multi meter thought id give motogadget jedi Roo a ring who put me straight in about 20 seconds - so, then after another hour ive now got a netural light and oil light both functioning correctly.
I bought a pattern frame which i could hack to pieces as i didnt want the stalks for indicators look so that got cut down and put on the front.
Wiring loom mostly taped up.
Tidied up the cable routing behind the front light also.
Away for the week but all thats left to do is balance the carbs.
Oh - got the v5 back which is now marked as historic - logged into tax it an its already been enabled.
Post by: ComfySofa on August 20, 2023, 09:19:06 PM
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Post by: Laverdaroo on August 20, 2023, 09:41:10 PM
Enjoy Welsh Wales mate
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Post by: ComfySofa on August 20, 2023, 10:39:02 PM
Nice one mate, top skills and perseverance. Is there any meat in that yellow wire to take it under the central spar and away from anything bring in it or rubbing it? That’s all I can see from those shots. Top job buddyNot sure what you mean....you'll have to explain on the phone!
Enjoy Welsh Wales mate
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Post by: Laverdaroo on August 21, 2023, 12:28:48 AM
Looks great though mate, a great job
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Post by: ComfySofa on August 21, 2023, 09:39:54 AM
Post by: taysidedragon on August 21, 2023, 01:01:51 PM
Nice one mate, top skills and perseverance. Is there any meat in that yellow wire to take it under the central spar and away from anything bring in it or rubbing it? That’s all I can see from those shots. Top job buddy
Enjoy Welsh Wales mate
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The standard wiring has sections routed over the frame tube as shown in the Honda wiring routing diagrams.
There's a reasonable amount of room between the frame and the tank. 👍
Post by: ComfySofa on August 27, 2023, 12:54:16 PM
Onto the final straight.....
At this point im not sure where to start or what to do...you tube links would be good!! ( i am looking at the moment...) so where im currently at..
1. All electrics now finished...starter motor turns over...
2. Electronic ignition fitted (led light comes on) but not set up. (nto sure if i need anything special to set that up though)
3. Carbs not setup (and not sure where to start on that either) but i do have vacuum guages here.
All of the above does seem like you need a bit of experience or "the feel" for setting it up so not sure if ive got that yet! :)
Post by: Laverdaroo on August 27, 2023, 01:31:09 PM
Sent from my death bed, I can see the vultures circling and it’s all going dark etc……….
enjoy.
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Post by: Oddjob on August 27, 2023, 02:13:10 PM
I'm at serious risk though. ;D ;D
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Post by: ComfySofa on September 13, 2023, 11:11:43 AM
Theres a guy down at the end of the road with an old bonneville thats hes renovated and as this was/is a points/carbs/ignition thing i went and had a chat.... he took a look and said straight away "those coils are ancient, so id change those out first..." hence the dyna coils and ive gotta say, its been 30 years since ive bought a set of dyna coils (for my old slab sided GSXR) and i didnt think they existed anymore but yey they are....they do just ooze quality...!
Coils were on my list of upgrades eventually so took it on the chin a bit bit earlier than i wanted to but hey, thats life...! the main bonus being that i dont have to faff around with the HT cables being moulded into the coil malarkey..!
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Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on September 13, 2023, 11:27:42 AM
Mine have the Impedance stamped on the other side.
.(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50305323497_e14edf1bed_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jDiW4K)CB 400F2 coil mounts (https://flic.kr/p/2jDiW4K) by Macabe Thiele (https://www.flickr.com/photos/187487200@N03/), on Flickr
Post by: ComfySofa on September 13, 2023, 11:30:18 AM
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on September 13, 2023, 11:37:53 AM
Hey Ted. Mine say 3 ohm on the other side.....i did see those ones you have....tbh i just search for 1977 honda cb 400 and these ones came up....
The packaging saying Drag Specialities just made me suspicious as you described them as Dyna ones - lots of other brands on the market that work - my 500 has some cheap ones purchased locally.
What I do like about the coils you have is the plug in leads I am no fan of the original Honda design. I would be interested to know the supplier if you have a link. Are the bolt centres the same as the original as well?
Post by: ComfySofa on September 13, 2023, 11:41:30 AM
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/275541216292
My old GSXR ones (from recollection were yellow in colour) and had the same exit angle for the HT leads....i kinda assumed that they were therefore dyna...might not be though - i must confess i didnt pay that much attention...!
Furiously googling now....yeah appears i dont have actual "Dyna" ones....return or no? what says you lot?
Found them on the net.... https://www.arhcustom.co.uk/brands/drag-specialties/drag-specialties-ignition-coils/?gclid=CjwKCAjwu4WoBhBkEiwAojNdXnmGsixawd_6TrN-hooqUKsH8TrH0shry28nMxjlCQ24k7k2vX0AUhoCnRkQAvD_BwE
Anyone got any reviews/feeback??
Edit - found a range of reviews...cant see anything bad about them- different models but they all seem to be happy with them....and i will say they do have the look, feel and the weight of Dyna's..
Post by: Oddjob on September 13, 2023, 03:49:53 PM
I'd have mounted them the other way Ted, facing forward you have wind etc pushing moisture into the opening where the leads exit, facing backward you don't. They should fit either way so why not take advantage of that.
Biggest drawback IMO is the cost, fixing the standard coils is normally miles cheaper and thanks to the Ash fix that's now easy to do. Plus then you get the correct impedance, lower current draw and better fitting. Along with electrical connectors are spot on.
Post by: ComfySofa on September 13, 2023, 03:56:20 PM
Post by: Oddjob on September 13, 2023, 04:17:35 PM
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on September 13, 2023, 04:49:26 PM
The Dynas are probably not worth paying the extra for imho.
That's the same firm I bought my complete Dyna electronic ignition from. As regards current use I thought that is down to the Dyna Electronics not the coils themselves.
Post by: ComfySofa on September 13, 2023, 04:52:16 PM
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on September 13, 2023, 05:07:46 PM
As regards current use I thought that is down to the Dyna Electronics not the coils themselves.
The issue is with the primary impedance Ted.
The standard coils are about 5 ohms, which at 12V is 2.4A or 29W when the points are closed.
3 ohm coils will draw 4A (48W) which could easily overload your alternator if you have lights on etc.
I’m writing this from memory so any errors will sin be reported by the (other) electronic engineers on here.
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Post by: K2-K6 on September 13, 2023, 05:26:04 PM
Essentially the same that electronic switching does, they can then use less dwell time to reduce the draw and still make good sparks.
One way of almagamating the two different speciation elements.
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on September 13, 2023, 05:40:04 PM
As regards current use I thought that is down to the Dyna Electronics not the coils themselves.
The issue is with the primary impedance Ted.
The standard coils are about 5 ohms, which at 12V is 2.4A or 29W when the points are closed.
3 ohm coils will draw 4A (48W) which could easily overload your alternator if you have lights on etc.
I’m writing this from memory so any errors will sin be reported by the (other) electronic engineers on here.
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No worries for me then it's unlikely I will ever ride in the dark again plus my headlamp & rear lamps are LED's.
Post by: ComfySofa on September 13, 2023, 06:02:38 PM
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Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on September 13, 2023, 06:40:39 PM
It look wider to me Andy?
As you can see in my photo I had to cut out the coil mounts to fit on the 400, my 500 coils were 10mm too short so I just inserted a link bracket to the frame as they are mounted differently.
Post by: Oddjob on September 13, 2023, 06:55:43 PM
That’s the point I was trying to make, don’t forget there are small bulbs lit as well like neutral, repeaters, speedo/tacho etc, it all adds up
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on September 13, 2023, 07:37:37 PM
It’s not just lights that draw large currents though Ted, sit at some lights with the indicator going and you’re holding the bike on the brakes so the rear light is lit etc and as the bikes ticking over almost no charge is going to the battery, all this drains even a good battery never mind a poor one. Plus these days it’s advisable to ride with lights on etc, you need to make sure your seen etc.
That’s the point I was trying to make, don’t forget there are small bulbs lit as well like neutral, repeaters, speedo/tacho etc, it all adds up
I have electronic flasher & LED indicators all my small bulbs are LED's as well plus I regualrly connect up my smart charger, my DTRL is also LED ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on September 14, 2023, 12:35:50 PM
Could be...not got that far yet!
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I have sent you a couple of PM's that might be of future help.
My late father who taught me on cars when I was 15 years old said son never forget you only need three things for an engine to work.
Fuel,
Spark
and those two things happening at the right time,
He added even with poor compression it should fire & at least try to run.
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Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on September 14, 2023, 08:20:55 PM
Update: Just read it clears so great! 😁
Looking at your picture you have the yellow wire for cylinders 2 & 3 on the left - thats fine if you have the HT leads accordingly I believe convention is Blue on the left for 1 & 4.
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Post by: Deano400 on September 14, 2023, 09:40:15 PM
Pretty sure that will foul the tank - worth seeing then if it catches - the top of the flat steel section needs to be almost flush with the top of the mountings iirc.
Update: Just read it clears so great! 😁
Looking at your picture you have the yellow wire for cylinders 2 & 3 on the left - thats fine if you have the HT leads accordingly I believe convention is Blue on the left for 1 & 4.
I've only ever seen Blue on the right, 1 & 4 Ted.
Post by: ComfySofa on September 14, 2023, 09:45:22 PM
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on September 14, 2023, 09:55:19 PM
3 out of 4 is a good start
Have you checked number 3 plug is it wet.
Might be worth switching the leads to eliminate a poor HT connection or if you have a spare lead try it.
Or switch the leads for 2&3 see if the problem moves
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Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on September 15, 2023, 08:31:39 AM
Had to come back in as I've got an early start tomorrow I've got spare HT but no plugs to go in the coils....I'll be back in tomorrow night...and the weekend.Switch the leads 2 & 3 and see if the problem moves to number 2 cylinder as long as you have not shortened the leads too much. Also worth seeing if the plug is wet on number 3, easy enough to dry it off and heat it up a tad if you have a gas ring.
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Post by: ComfySofa on September 15, 2023, 05:04:39 PM
So, while it was sitting there at 3k running (from cold) i started to push things on the carbs and eiphany moment....pushing those big brass hex bolts down (theres a couple of mm of springloaded play downwards and the revs dropped down) - then it conked out as ive backed off the tickover screw....
Theres some screws directly behind that look like they can be adjusted...
Edit: tried adjusting them....all the way out or all the way in doesnt make any difference......if i adjust all the way in i loose the ability to push them down so the bike sits at 3k...
Hey - its progress i can actually get it to tickover now...albeit pushing all four brass bolts down..!
Just adding here for visibility...i did speak to Roo just now but he was in a bad signal area so sounded like Norman Collier...
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Post by: Laverdaroo on September 15, 2023, 07:19:02 PM
As for you Ken, can you stop leaving your passport photo lying about, it’s making the milk curdle in the kitchen……..(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230915/e1fb214ef5efcc171c5ff74a8439389b.jpg)
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Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on September 19, 2023, 05:42:11 PM
Pretty sure that will sort your idle out if pressing down on the brass caps slows it down.
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Post by: ComfySofa on September 24, 2023, 06:08:51 PM
As me and Roo were chatting...the rear mudguard needs rechroming (and a few other bits) but ill tackle that once ive had a few goes on it!
I cant say enough thanks to everyone thats chipped in with help suggestions and what not (Bryan and Roo) - lads....its a corny phrase but i couldnt have done it without you...especially Bryan - it would still be in carboard boxes now!!
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1. Have to give it the beans a little bit on pull-away....!
2. Front brake is a bit spongy and weak but ill let it settle in as the pads are new - theres definately no air in there so might need a rebuild kit for the master cylinder.
3. Have to remember to use the choke!
4. Chain is rusty as, but ok so for the cost ill get a new one on order.
5. Bit of play in the throttle cable so ill adjust that out....
6. Only got the one ignition key (and original one) so ill get another one cut at lunchtime.
Stuff to do....
1. Rear mudguard is gonna get the rechroming treatment along with a coupl of other things..
2. As above - chain.
3. More of a motogadget question but when i hit the starter (and it starts) the full beam comes on and not the dip....pretty sure ive got it all wired in so could be a setting...
4. New rear shocks for nothing more than the bling.
5. Gonna change the oil after (im guessing) another half a dozen rides...im assuming after a rebuild theres gonna be some stuff swishing around...
6. Throtle cable as above...
7. One of those steel dragon air filters...for the look and....it makes it tons easier to remove the carbs if i ever need to...
Anyway - thats it for now...but more than anything else...its in one piece and it works! - hopefully itll get me home tonight! :)
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Post by: Bryanj on September 25, 2023, 12:15:20 PM
Stick to the standard airbox, it will run better
Wiring is wrong light shouldnt come on
Rear shocks if you want good get ikons but sit down when costing them, 2nd best Hagon, chrome look goods on tinternet make good wall hangings
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Post by: ComfySofa on September 26, 2023, 06:20:21 PM
Run the engine, stick a positive wire from the meter on the battery line.... and im seeing about 12.77v at tickover...if i blip the throttle i see it start to climb to about 12.8....not the usual jump id see from a modern bike...ie 12.5v - blip the throttle then see it go to over 13v.
Again i grounded the black wire from the meter on the frame and stuck the positive in each of the yellow wires coming from the generator....im seeing about 1.6volts...is that right?
Anymore tests i can do?
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