Post by: philward on January 26, 2021, 10:12:42 AM
Dear Phil,
Sorry for the delay in responding.
We have set up our account that you pay the VAT to us and we will declare it in the UK.
So you pay the VAT to us and you don't have to pay this to the customs/UPS. Additional charges are 2% import duties, as our good aren't from the EU and a fixed 11,50 GBP for custom fee.
Please let me know if you have any other questions.
Kind regards,
Gert
Post by: Johnny4428 on January 26, 2021, 10:25:56 AM
Post by: SumpMagnet on January 26, 2021, 11:00:26 AM
The courier should make sure the correct customs paperwork is supplied on collection, and not accept them otherwise. Once goods get into the network, it should be straightforward. Trouble is...couriers often use partners in other countries for end delivery if they do not operate directly across the borders. These relationships have all had to be reworked....and not all has gone well as it;s being done in the middle of a pandemic, with high absence levels.
It should settle down eventually...... but legally.....the retailer remains responsible for your goods until delivery. They are the ones who need to sort out the courier issues
Post by: AshimotoK0 on January 26, 2021, 11:37:17 AM
Post by: UK Pete on January 26, 2021, 11:45:34 AM
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Post by: MrDavo on January 26, 2021, 11:49:17 AM
I would start ranting about never seeing anything like this on the side of a bus, but I don’t want to get the thread locked for becoming political. :(
Post by: paul G on January 26, 2021, 12:09:41 PM
Just thought, will need to find a uk painter as well, it wont be affordable to use menno
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Post by: Johnny4428 on January 26, 2021, 12:32:50 PM
Consolidated Motor Spares
Shipping to the UK
Dear Sir/Madam ,
as you might have noticed the shipping towards the UK is taking longer than expected. We are really sorry about this.
We received your package back at our warehouse and we will send the order to you as soon as possible.
Currently we are sending back some packages as test cases to see if they arrive on time. As it stands now the estimated time of arrival of these test cases are thursday 28th of january.
If these shipments arrive as expected we will ship your "returned package" to the UK. You should receive your order than by the 3rd of February onwards.
We really do understand that you still would like to have an exact estimated time of delivery. Therefore you can follow your order with the new Track& Trace ID provided by mail after we have shipped your order once again.
Feel free to contact us by phone but please don't place a support ticket as these will take longer to process.
Best regards,
Consolidated Motor Spares - Parts For A Better Ride
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Post by: Skoti on January 26, 2021, 12:40:51 PM
Getting stuff from the UK is obviously no longer going to be as cheap, but at least DS has made it simpler and easier with his DDP system. (Delivered Duty Paid).
https://www.davidsilverspares.co.uk/terms-and-conditions/
Post by: JamesH on January 26, 2021, 01:45:11 PM
Post by: ka-ja on January 26, 2021, 02:08:55 PM
Post by: philward on January 26, 2021, 02:58:56 PM
Post by: royhall on January 26, 2021, 04:37:31 PM
Post by: SeanFD on January 26, 2021, 05:33:35 PM
Just had this email this minute.
Consolidated Motor Spares
Shipping to the UK
Dear Sir/Madam ,
as you might have noticed the shipping towards the UK is taking longer than expected. We are really sorry about this.
We received your package back at our warehouse and we will send the order to you as soon as possible.
Currently we are sending back some packages as test cases to see if they arrive on time. As it stands now the estimated time of arrival of these test cases are thursday 28th of january.
If these shipments arrive as expected we will ship your "returned package" to the UK. You should receive your order than by the 3rd of February onwards.
We really do understand that you still would like to have an exact estimated time of delivery. Therefore you can follow your order with the new Track& Trace ID provided by mail after we have shipped your order once again.
Feel free to contact us by phone but please don't place a support ticket as these will take longer to process.
I think my parts are part of the experiment. Ordered 07 Jan, initially they were held by UPS and then returned. CMS have since dispatched them with an estimated delivery date of 28th Jan. there were no extra charges, but they are going to N Ireland, which, if I understand the system is still in the customs union and free trade area.
If you leave the club, you can't expect to continue enjoying the benefits! I'm moving to France; not because of #@%$, but to avoid all the ferries from NI when I put my retirement plan into effect. ;D
Post by: kent400 on January 26, 2021, 06:38:38 PM
Post by: Dave Bingham on January 26, 2021, 08:06:47 PM
Post by: philward on January 26, 2021, 09:14:30 PM
Post by: MeilakJ on January 26, 2021, 09:22:32 PM
Apperently from the agreement that has been reached this has complicated the process . My couriers have informed me that if there was not a deal it would have been easier to process as it would automatically just be buying from a country similar to the US . Package arrives just pay customs and VAt and done . with what has been agreed , they have to verify country of origin , to see if it from UK it is really from UK so that there is no abuse etc
Anyway ,hope fully things will get smoother along the way .
Post by: kent400 on January 26, 2021, 10:34:45 PM
arrived here without a problem. No evidence Customs had looked in the box. So it might be the case that no duty is payable is these circumstances and shouldn't be as it's not a purchase.
Post by: Skoti on January 27, 2021, 09:48:04 AM
JUST this week, we’ve discovered that now we are out of the EU-wide Interchange Fee Regulation, which used to cap credit card fees at 0.3%, Mastercard is now raising its fees to 1.5% for UK customers on any items bought in the EU.
To add irony to injury, it might have been way more than 1.5% if the EU hadn’t also negotiated a cap for non-EU credit cards.
I found this report in a National UK newspaper, so it obviously needs to be verified by contacting your bank or credit card provider.
Post by: Athame57 on January 27, 2021, 11:27:10 AM
EEEEEE....don't use Mastercard! ;D
JUST this week, we’ve discovered that now we are out of the EU-wide Interchange Fee Regulation, which used to cap credit card fees at 0.3%, Mastercard is now raising its fees to 1.5% for UK customers on any items bought in the EU.
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on January 27, 2021, 01:11:00 PM
Meanwhile some info for those of us residing in the EU.
Getting stuff from the UK is obviously no longer going to be as cheap, but at least DS has made it simpler and easier with his DDP system. (Delivered Duty Paid).
https://www.davidsilverspares.co.uk/terms-and-conditions/
As far as I understand, getting parts from David Silver here in G will be around + 4%:
Sales price excluding UK VAT (-20%) + German VAT + 19% + German customs duty +5 = + 4% in toto
Post by: Nurse Julie on January 27, 2021, 01:52:44 PM
Post by: Skoti on January 27, 2021, 03:30:21 PM
Imported consignments of goods not exceeding £135 are subject to sales (supply) VAT instead of import VAT.
This should be charged to the UK consumer by the UK or non-UK seller in the checkout at the point-of-sale.
The seller must then report and pay the collected VAT through a regular UK VAT return.
A simplified customs declaration will still be required. Goods above this value are be subject to VAT and customs in the old way.
https://www.avalara.com/vatlive/en/vat-news/uk-post-#@%$-vat-on-e-commerce-b2c-imports.html (https://www.avalara.com/vatlive/en/vat-news/uk-post-#@%$-vat-on-e-commerce-b2c-imports.html)
So I think we pay the sales VAT directly to the seller instead of the shipping company or Royal Mail.
I suppose this makes things a little easier in the UK when buying stuff from the EU and vice versa...
Post by: royhall on January 27, 2021, 03:33:06 PM
Post by: SeanFD on January 27, 2021, 07:11:29 PM
I think my parts are part of the experiment. Ordered 07 Jan, initially they were held by UPS and then returned. CMS have since dispatched them with an estimated delivery date of 28th Jan. there were no extra charges, but they are going to N Ireland, which, if I understand the system is still in the customs union and free trade area.
If you leave the club, you can't expect to continue enjoying the benefits! I'm moving to France; not because of #@%$, but to avoid all the ferries from NI when I put my retirement plan into effect. ;D
My parts arrived today. no additional charges.
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on January 28, 2021, 01:07:39 PM
And to complicate matters further the VAT procedure from 1st July 2021 is due to change:-
Imported consignments of goods not exceeding £135 are subject to sales (supply) VAT instead of import VAT.
This should be charged to the UK consumer by the UK or non-UK seller in the checkout at the point-of-sale.
The seller must then report and pay the collected VAT through a regular UK VAT return.
A simplified customs declaration will still be required. Goods above this value are be subject to VAT and customs in the old way.
https://www.avalara.com/vatlive/en/vat-news/uk-post-#@%$-vat-on-e-commerce-b2c-imports.html (https://www.avalara.com/vatlive/en/vat-news/uk-post-#@%$-vat-on-e-commerce-b2c-imports.html)
So I think we pay the sales VAT directly to the seller instead of the shipping company or Royal Mail.
I suppose this makes things a little easier in the UK when buying stuff from the EU and vice versa...
i´say it depends if the seller is a private person or a company.
BTW: linky no worky
Post by: Skoti on January 28, 2021, 01:24:55 PM
sorry about the previous dodgy link I posted, here's another one that hopefully works, but it's a wee bit out of date as the new VAT legislation is actually intended to be effective from 1st July 2021.
"HMRC has announced that it will abolish the LVCR with effect from 1 January 2021 and are proposing to make all imported goods up to £135 in value liable for domestic VAT rather than Import VAT – thus shifting the point where VAT is collected from the time of importation to the time of supply to the customer."
https://www.blickrothenberg.com/insights/detail/vat-changes-proposed-from-1-january-2021-for-consumer-sales-purchased-from-overseas-sellers/#:~:text=HMRC%20has%20announced%20that%20it,of%20supply%20to%20the%20customer.
(It's also possible to find official info about this on the EU website in other languages.)
Hope this helps
Skoti
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on January 28, 2021, 09:49:55 PM
Edit: nice auto-correction!
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on January 29, 2021, 06:36:03 AM
There aren’t many of them, but that’s one
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Post by: MrDavo on January 29, 2021, 03:09:34 PM
Some words are auto-censored.The Z1 owner's forum I'm in autocorrects the word 'Honda'.
Post by: JamesH on January 29, 2021, 04:14:48 PM
One of the reasons I don't really contribute there. Seems rather petty to me.Some words are auto-censored.The Z1 owner's forum I'm in autocorrects the word 'Honda'.
By the way Dave, I've been meaning to say thank you for sharing your Z1 build on this forum. I know I encouraged you to do so and haven't really commented on the thread recently, but you're doing a superb job with it and it's going to look stunning.
Post by: waffey on January 29, 2021, 04:38:25 PM
I just emailed Marcel (CB750Faces.com) to see how much a set of CB500K2 faces will be now landed in the UK inc import duty etc.
order some faces, two chrome rings and trip boot <£80 delivered tracked postage
Post by: gtmdriver on January 30, 2021, 08:16:14 AM
We don't have the "paperwork" trouble with the USA or Canada, and I recently purchased from Israel with no trouble, the EU is simply punishing the UK for daring to leave the club, why we bother negotiating with people that take away lorry drivers packed lunches I don't know.
These charges are not new and are not a punishment. They have always been there when trading with countries outside the EU. I have sold items on eBay to non-EU countries (before #@%$) and had to fill in customs declarations in triplicate and other administrative forms.
Post by: AshimotoK0 on February 06, 2021, 06:34:49 PM
Post by: Menno on February 07, 2021, 12:24:07 AM
(from Europe to UK)
Post by: Menno on May 11, 2021, 08:01:45 PM
So from 2022 anything bought in Europe by someone in the Uk will be charged with tax.
Also private shipments.
Anything bought in the UK by Europeans is being charged with tax since 2021.
Sets for the Uk I can ship this year until dec 2021 without being charged with tax.
In 2022 shipping sets back to the UK by me will be added roughly 20% on total worth on arrival.
Keep in mind: anything shipped to me at this moment will be charged with tax.
Tips: State place of origin: Uk - not Japan. After 50 years in the UK one could assume the parts have integrated enough.
Keep shipment value as low as possible.
I initially thought some packages would slip through or would not be checked.
But its the shipping companies that bill you. Customs doesn't even check.
Experience sofar:
DHL: Package held hostage. Payment upfront. After payment, package will be delivered.
UPS: They simply send you a bill at their convenience. This could also be 2 weeks after delivery.
Sorry, I didn't vote for this. But yeay, blue passports.