Honda-SOHC
SOHC.co.uk Forums => CB500/550 => Topic started by: SPR on November 26, 2022, 09:34:40 AM
-
So I had the centre stand powder coated and managed to stretch the ends of the old spring - no problem ordered a new genuine one
Used the coin method and got the new spring on and tbh I think it is too loose .... the stand doesn’t hold tight against the exhaust and “floats” easily
I’m worried that when riding if it will bounce around
Not sure what I’ve done as I only extended it to get the coins in and then pulled them straight out ? Will the spring tighten up ? Or should I just order another
Not sure if you can see from the 2nd picture - it doesn’t reach the rubber pad on the exhaust at all
Simon
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221126/8bf5eff526af4ddf554016fb082e3483.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221126/21a742ed9ed65fe8d37f751762c43fd2.jpg)
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
-
Just fitted my centre stand spring & it pulls it well up to the swing arm on my virtually bare frame. Is the curved plate end where the spring is attached on correctly?
-
Did you fit it in the up position or down?
-
Just fitted my centre stand spring & it pulls it well up to the swing arm on my virtually bare frame. Is the curved plate end where the spring is attached on correctly?
Yep - all bits look correct and the spring longer end bend is at the bottom
-
Did you fit it in the up position or down?
I fitted it in nearly the up as that seemed the least pull required to get it over the tang
-
Just fitted my centre stand spring & it pulls it well up to the swing arm on my virtually bare frame. Is the curved plate end where the spring is attached on correctly?
Yep - all bits look correct and the spring longer end bend is at the bottom
Interesting my spring was the same at both ends just the end was 180 degrees different - I fitted a new 400 spring that was identical in length & shape.
Correction one end is slightly longer I have that on the frame end - no particular reason - mine is probably upside down.
Just a thought is the spring clear of the stand at the top when the stand is down at the top end. The spring should be clear of the stand leg if you get my drift ?
-
Mine will be original, the windings look more compacted. It is tight against the rubber stop when up. Looks like a manufacturing issue?
-
Spring looks new, has it been replated?
If not it's possible the spring is incorrect and fitted by the shop as a way of just getting it out of the door.
I'd remove it again, take a pic of it against a ruler and I'll see about comparing it with mine..
-
It was a new spring .... supposedly genuine ... no catching up or down
I've ordered another from a different supplier - so we will see as it certainly seems slck on the windings compared to Jez's
-
I'd remove it again, take a pic of it against a ruler and I'll see about comparing it with mine..
We'll all avert our eyes while this is carried out :o
Apologies for juvenile sniggering over here in "daahhhn saarff" ;D ;D ;D
-
I'd remove it again, take a pic of it against a ruler and I'll see about comparing it with mine..
We'll all avert our eyes while this is carried out :o
Apologies for juvenile sniggering over here in "daahhhn saarff" ;D ;D ;D
Filth! ;D
-
🙈
-
I have measured my old spring it is 125 mm in length on the bench - just shy of 5" in old money.
I used a spring puller to fit my new one - it was close to the limit of my weakling biceps to hook it on that was with the swing arm fitted but no rear dampers - just made it a tad easier for an old man.
-
I have measured my old spring it is 125 mm in length on the bench - just shy of 5" in old money.
Cheers Ted - I'll try and get this one off tomorrow
-
These things are a challenge to common sense - yesterday I realised I had not fitted the steering column bottom outer race - it will be interesting to see if I can fit it working upside down or if I need to remove the rear wheel, swing arm, stand and fit it with the frame upside down as I did on the 400.
I'm assuming your centre stand is the one you took off not a spare stand.
Any news when the "Eagle will Land" (Laverda) ?
-
These things are a challenge to common sense - yesterday I realised I had not fitted the steering column bottom outer race - it will be interesting to see if I can fit it working upside down or if I need to remove the rear wheel, swing arm, stand and fit it with the frame upside down as I did on the 400.
I'm assuming your centre stand is the one you took off not a spare stand.
Any news when the "Eagle will Land" (Laverda) ?
I don't envy you !
Yep - stand is the same .... and eagle still hasn't landed ::)
-
The bearing race is presently undergoing molecular cooling in our Freezer - I'm less than optimistic - if I can get it in straight flush to the frame I'm sorted - I have made a nifty tool from threaded bar & alloy drift tool discs to pull it into place.
-
If you're ever fitting a centre stand after having the frame powder coated for instance do it before you do anything else. With no swinging arm in place you can usually lift the stand up so much inside the frame that the spring will just clip on with no stretching at all, you just lower the stand and it's done, then fit the swinging arm after of course fitting the rear brake pivot pin beforehand.
The threaded bar method works just fine normally Ted.
-
Ive only ever fitted them from bottom up using an old race as a drift and knocking it out afterwards
-
Removed the new "genuine Honda" spring to measure and it seems it is 145mm end to end ..... which would probably be the issue
I've ordered again from classic honda ... another genuine Honda one so time will tell
[attachimg=1]
-
Without a doubt. The attached on eBay looks about 5 1/16 inch. Might be worth asking them to check before they send it.
-
Removed the new "genuine Honda" spring to measure and it seems it is 145mm end to end ..... which would probably be the issue
I've ordered again from classic honda ... another genuine Honda one so time will tell
(Attachment Link)
There's something wrong with that picture. The coils should be tight and without any gaps whatsoever. Either the spring is faulty and was supplied like that or the coins have opened the coils. I would always use a spring puller or lever it on using a long screwdriver. That way the whole spring shares the stretch rather that the coils when coins are used.
-
Without a doubt. The attached on eBay looks about 5 1/16 inch. Might be worth asking them to check before they send it.
Is that UK ebay ?
-
There's something wrong with that picture. The coils should be tight and without any gaps whatsoever. Either the spring is faulty and was supplied like that or the coins have opened the coils. I would always use a spring puller or lever it on using a long screwdriver. That way the whole spring shares the stretch rather that the coils when coins are used.
I think you are right - I've used the coin method before with no ill effects but have ordered a puller for the new one.
I can't remember how it looked when it arrived other than it not being in a sealed honda bag .... I was more concerned skipping out to the garage to fit :)
-
You can have my old spring f.o.c. to fit in the meantime if it helps?
-
You can have my old spring f.o.c. to fit in the meantime if it helps?
That would be great TED - I'll PM you
-
Yes UK eBay but FOC is better! Looks like the gaps don’t amount to the difference in length. I should think if the coins could stretch it, using it would too, (which it doesn’t of course). The genuine original ones are pretty robust. The DSS spring looks genuine as stated for anyone needing one.
-
Ted’s spring arrived and to say there is a difference is an understatement !!!
Coin trick used again as puller never arrived and no problems - fits perfectly and stand holds up against exhaust stop rubber
Simon
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221202/5d745b60b4217f4c88824a580831b4e0.jpg)
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
-
Result! Good news! 👍
Simon ps. Took mine for a spin today having only been out briefly since fitting Mark P’s ignition.
Seems to tickover cleaner when cold and warm, pull more eagerly and cleanly from low revs. Nice. 👍👍
-
Result! Good news! 👍
Simon ps. Took mine for a spin today having only been out briefly since fitting Mark P’s ignition.
Seems to tickover cleaner when cold and warm, pull more eagerly and cleanly from low revs. Nice. 👍👍
Good to hear :) I put mine on after fiddling with various setup bits so wasn't sure of any perceived improvement ::)