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[Trigger]

I would use it  But, i am a bit nuts on fast bikes. Was doing a stupid speed up the A1 yesterday and then along side me was the  souped up volvo  of the law, giving me a wagging finger 

[Bryanj]

Was that the Volvo F12 Trigger?

[Trigger]

Was that the Volvo F12 Trigger?

  I did have to look that up as the last truck i was at the wheel of was a Layland T45 

[Bryanj]

Plod is getting sneaky(er) now and have plain tractor units with no speed limiter so the passenger can see into truck cabs and knick drivers for naughties like phones

[hairygit]

Plod is getting sneaky(er) now and have plain tractor units with no speed limiter so the passenger can see into truck cabs and knick drivers for naughties like phones

I'm afraid I'm in favour of nailing ANYBODY using a phone while driving, at the end of the day, we all know it's against the law, don't moan if you get caught doing it. (And it's a £2,500 fine for a commercial driver caught doing so!)

[Green1]

I to Have to agree with Hairy  I see at least 10 drivers a day on the phone
I don't mind the plod being a little sneaky to catch bad driving.
Hiding speed traps on the other hand pisses me off.

[Nurse Julie]

Agree 100% with Hairy and £2500 isn't enough of a fine. There is absolutely no excuse to be holding and using a phone in this day and age. Personally, I think looking at sat navs whilst driving is as bad if not worse.

[Green1]

I pass a car almost every morning and it has so much stuff on the screen I think he must be relying on the satnav to see where he's going because there's not much screen left to look out off.
I'm sure he has an IPad on there. 

[Bryanj]

I agree about the phones, i wont answer unless its bluetoothed to my ear slug. The real point was forces spending £100,000 on a unit to catch not many people

[hairygit]

I agree about the phones, i wont answer unless its bluetoothed to my ear slug. The real point was forces spending £100,000 on a unit to catch not many people

  Problem is Bryan, a road death costs a whole lot more, last figures I saw published a few years ago, was £390,000 per fatality. That's totalling Emergency services, hospital treatments and staff, then the inquest, it all costs big time. So if they stop just one fatality, it has more than paid for itself. Remember a few months back the Polish truck driver that was texting and slammed into stationary traffic and wiped out an entire family? He was caught by his company's cab camera's, and he has gone to prison for a long time. A few months back they were patrolling the A30 and A38 here in Devon, they filmed a Lithuanian trucker cooking Spag bol on a primus stove while doing 56mph, a Tesco truck driver using cruise control steering with his feet while texting, AND watching a movie on an I pad on the dashboard, so do you still think £100k is expensive??

[K2-K6]

I saw those vids HG and think anyone would agree that things like that should be prevented.

A mate got stopped by one of those (he drives car transporters) and they showed him the incriminating footage filmed from tractor unit passenger seat,  of him driving..........without a seatbelt..........there was no "don't be a knob" or "come on, be sensible mate we don't want to attend an accident with you injured " or anything like that.  Just a straight fixed penalty ticket and nothing as sensible as telling him that if caught again he'll be ticketed. He's one of the most conscientious drivers I know regarding risk to other road users.  That just seems the wrong way to deal with things and brings resentment that should be avoided.

[mickwinf]

I have even stopped using hands free as i saw a report that it still distracts your attention enough to be dangerous, although i am a driving instructor so will always be extra cautious.

[MCTID]

When I was teaching Safety Courses on the Railway a few years ago I advised the real cost to Society for a death was approximately £1.5 MILLION. It was a commonly accepted figure throughout the HSE fraternity, but hardly any of my Students got anywhere close when challenged to guess a figure.

Another little snippet I used was the fact that when using a Mobile whilst driving a car your reaction time was slower than if you were over the Drink Driving Alcohol Limit. Again, most Students had no idea that this was the case.

Around 1993 I had two mobiles in my job visiting LU Stations to audit Contractors working on the Railway. Driving through London in the early hours I once answered the 'On Call' mobile to give some advice to a member of our Station Staff. When I finished the conversation I pulled over and found that I had no recollection whether the last set of Traffic Lights I had driven through were Red or Green.

From that moment I have never answered a mobile whilst I'm driving.......I don't have a 'Hands Free' facility because I firmly believe that driving requires 100% concentration........I don't usually listen to CD's or the Radio whilst driving for the same reason, but that is a personal preference.

To work on the Railway, you have to attend a Training Course every two years, taking an examination BEFORE you commence the course. If you fail, your 'Training Certificates' are taken off you and you cannot work on the Railway until you take another course and pass the standard required. I never had any problem with this as you should not be in a dangerous environment if you don't meet the required standard.
Conversely, I passed my Driving Test in 1967 and no one has ever asked me to take any further tests or training to either improve or test my driving skills.........which I think is absurd. Holding a Driving Licence is a privilege, not a right........but every day we see idiots driving about who should not be allowed behind a wheel or the handlebars of a lethal weapon.
Sorry my view is a bit long winded, but it's backed up by 51 years driving experience.

[SteveD CB500K0]

I saw £1.2M per fatality and also read the report about hands free use being worse than drinking.

Many of my mates use Bluetooth setups and answer the phone on their bikes.

I don’t. Bike time is my time


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[Green1]

I have never used a phone wile driving and will never use hands free. If you've seen my phone you will know why 
I can't employ anyone because I can't find anyone that can live without there phone glued to there ear.

Why anyone would even consider a phone conversation wile riding a bike I don't know.
Bike time is precious to me and its getting rarer due to work and its my time where I can switch off and forget everything