Video rebuild

[Bryanj]

 I think you ought to video the stripdown of that one Trigger!

[Trigger]

I think you ought to video the stripdown of that one Trigger!

Already stripped mate.

Seem to have a few bits missing from the kick shaft mechanism and new crank shells have been put in but the crank centre journal is chewed. What a waste of shells but, it keeps Sliver in business   



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[royhall]

You should start a black museum of pictures Trig.

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[paul G]

I think you ought to video the stripdown of that one Trigger!

Already stripped mate.

Seem to have a few bits missing from the kick shaft mechanism and new crank shells have been put in but the crank centre journal is chewed. What a waste of shells but, it keeps Sliver in business   
And you busy 



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[mike the bike]

I once made the mistake of using Loctite bearing fit under the shells.  The crank would hardly turn so I has to strip it down again and clean the shite off.

[royhall]

Wow. Just watched both videos, I think he will be seeing the insides of that engine again fairly soon. Not sure he understands the concepts of what it is he is meant to be doing. That's a sure way to get your bearings spinning in the cases if ever I saw one. Hylomar is not meant to be used in that manner, that's either RTV or Hondabond, as Julie pointed out it's going to end up everywhere. And I couldn't wait for the bit Trigger pointed out, over tighten the bolts first then check you have overdone it with the torque wrench, then just to be sure go for it again. What happened to half torque then three quarters etc going round the sequence until fully tight. Funniest thing I have seen in a while. At least he tried.

[Sprocket]

This thread needs more popcorn!

I've seen all the vids before but I'm really really interested in some concepts you guys are discussing here as I'm about to rebuilt my engine. I've referred to his vids and the Haynes book to disassemble so far and touch wood I've not had any major problems. I'm intending on taking as long as it needs to reassemble but knowing things like 'don't oil the back of the shells', 'use Hondabond not Hylomar' and so on are really useful tidbits.

At the risk of exposing some massive industry secrets, Trigger, Julie and all, could you give me a rundown on some good practise and common pitfalls?

[royhall]

Biggest one is to ensure everything is totally clean before you start and that is especially so when it comes to the oil galleries. If the cases have been blasted (except for soda blasting) ensure that no blast media whatsoever remains on or in the casings. And don't blast the casing insides. Soda blast them if your really not sure you can get the grit out. Any blast grit remaining in the casings will rapidly destroy your new engine.

[Rob62]

It would be useful for members to have access to correct information, especially for precise operations like engine rebuilding. On the honda NSR forum, for example, is a very detailed build sequence for the engine (not a video but a very detailed sequence)... so that members don’t have to look on youtube and fall victim to rogue diy technicians....

[daz-j]

Hi all, the discussion seems to support Greg65's original point.  I was previously a member on a BMW E30zone car forum which had a 'Wiki' section – articles written and verified by the more knowledgeable members that documented an agreed way of doing particular tasks.  As a beginner I would welcome such a section on here.  I guess maybe that was the intention of the Aladdin's Cave?  The E30zone Wiki had 100's of articles and I think many were written by taking the important points from previous threads on a particular subject.  It was also the 1st place to look before posting a question and so saved a lot of repetition. 

[Andych]

Personally I think Julies build thread is as good a reference as you would want... lots of pictures and good, accurate descriptions.. when I finally get to mine that will be my reference tool.

[Man Of Kent]

I am so glad that I have read this thread first. I have been watching this chaps video a few times to learn about stripping and building a 400/4 engine. I have never built an engine in my life as I am a joinery manufacturer but I want to learn as I have many projects here to play with. I am just in the process in building a new shed in the back garden to have as a man cave and to play with my bikes in the evening instead of sitting indoors watching the boss of the house soaps.
In the New Year I was going to strip and build the 400 but I would love to see a video showing me how to do it correctly, if I hadn't seen this thread I would have defiantly put oil under the shells and probably made a mistake on the torque settings.
I am a complete novice so am I expecting too much of myself or should I do an SS50 engine first as I have got five of them here. Lol

[Nurse Julie]

You will be just fine.....take your time and keep asking questions on here.

[taysidedragon]

I recommend that you do a rebuild on a single cylinder engine first if you've never done it before.  That'll be a lot simpler to learn the principles on. On the 400 you've 4 cylinders to do and a lot more components to play with.
Since you have SS50 engines already, learn on one of them before jumping in the deep end. 👍