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K2-K6:
To cut through the shell marketing bullox,  those two are more or less the same spec as each other.

They both meet diesel rating of CF too.

The statement for the shell " uses both mineral and synthetic base stock" is more or less there to justify a higher price.

Neirher should give a problem,  bulk is significantly cheaper to by if you're going to use the quantity.

woody928:

--- Quote from: K2-K6 on June 04, 2020, 08:19:47 PM ---To cut through the shell marketing bullox,  those two are more or less the same spec as each other.

They both meet diesel rating of CF too.

The statement for the shell " uses both mineral and synthetic base stock" is more or less there to justify a higher price.

Neirher should give a problem,  bulk is significantly cheaper to by if you're going to use the quantity.

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So I'm still ok to use the shell oil and don't need to rush off to the shops then? Long term it would certainly make sense for me to invest in a larger quantity supply, good point well presented!

Just seen that you're in Wimbledon, you must only be about 15-20 mins up the road from me in Hinchley Wood. Do you get out on your bike often? It would be great to compare notes with some other owners and kick tyres at some point.

K2-K6:
I'd be comfortable using that in a Honda bike engine,  although realise that opinions can vary considerably on such a subject  :D

"Shell Helix HX7 10W-40 - 5Ltr
Shell Helix HX7 with its unique cleansing technology, goes on cleansing and protecting to help keep your engine clean and running efficiently. Formulated with synthetic technology, Shell Helix HX7 makes use of both synthetic and mineral base stocks to achieve higher performance levels than can be formulated from mineral oils alone. It provides excellent resistance to degradation to help maintain protection throughout the oil-drain interval. It also helps to reduce evaporation to help provide low oil consumption"

That part about "synthetic technology " is really kind of code for it's not really synthetic at all  ;D

It's a basic good quality,  correct viscosity oil that's suitable.  Better I'd not make it too much of an oil thread I suppose.

Location,  yes we're often around and passing you not so many times as I'd like on the bike though.  I usually stop by Newlands corner if near for a bike fix though on a weekend.
I'm fine to meet up though for a general natter about these old bikes,  or help / assistance if you needed to get heads together on anything. It's good seeing them out and running well.

woody928:

--- Quote from: K2-K6 on June 04, 2020, 10:23:37 PM ---I'd be comfortable using that in a Honda bike engine,  although realise that opinions can vary considerably on such a subject  :D

"Shell Helix HX7 10W-40 - 5Ltr
Shell Helix HX7 with its unique cleansing technology, goes on cleansing and protecting to help keep your engine clean and running efficiently. Formulated with synthetic technology, Shell Helix HX7 makes use of both synthetic and mineral base stocks to achieve higher performance levels than can be formulated from mineral oils alone. It provides excellent resistance to degradation to help maintain protection throughout the oil-drain interval. It also helps to reduce evaporation to help provide low oil consumption"

That part about "synthetic technology " is really kind of code for it's not really synthetic at all  ;D

It's a basic good quality,  correct viscosity oil that's suitable.  Better I'd not make it too much of an oil thread I suppose.

Location,  yes we're often around and passing you not so many times as I'd like on the bike though.  I usually stop by Newlands corner if near for a bike fix though on a weekend.
I'm fine to meet up though for a general natter about these old bikes,  or help / assistance if you needed to get heads together on anything. It's good seeing them out and running well.

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There's always opinions on everything, you've made me stop doubting myself though so thank you. It's going in when I get to it.

It seems we're never out on two wheels quite as much as we'd like. I was up at Newlands corner a couple of times when training for my license however I'm yet to get up there on my own two wheels. Hopefully when its all done and more acceptable then I can say hello up there! 

Be careful, I may well take you up on that :) I'm sure I'll hit some headaches when it comes to carb tuning as smooth running as that really isn't my forte. I'm keeping fingers crossed that my missing ignition components turn up this week to allow me to crack on with next weekend.

On the note of ignition components I'm replacing the coils. I know that when sitting on the bike, the left coil goes to cylinders 1 & 4 and the right coil goes to cylinders 2 & 3 however does it matter which wire goes to which cylinder from the respective coil?

I know on cars it matters which HT lead goes to which cylinder but am imagining its not critical on the bike given its coming from a coil instead? Please correct me if my assumption is incorrect as I don't wish to go cutting leads to size only to get it wrong...

woody928:

--- Quote from: Oddjob on June 08, 2020, 07:44:15 AM ---So long as the leads go to either cylinder 1 or 4 and that's from the 1-4 coil then no, same applies to the 2-3 coil, either lead to either 2 or 3. You may find however that one lead will reach and the other may not, if either reach I'd advise not to trim them unless the lead is really long, you can always cut away but you can't add.  Honda use what's called a wasted spark system so both lead will fire when the points open not just one like a car.

Any sign of the points plate and switch yet Woody, I have the tracking receipt in my pocket and I want to know if I can throw it.

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Thanks for confirming Ken, that keeps things nice and simple! I must admit that I'd intended to cut them just to tidy things up however I do see the argument for just stashing the extra lead away. Interesting, its amazing how things are very similar but very different. It continues to be a learning curve! New screws and connections are now here so I'm hoping to get those plumbed in and the plugs changed this week.

I was pleased to find your parcel when I got home this evening along with my new condensers rather conveniently. The packaging was mega thank you, and the handlebar switch is in superb condition for its age! That will make quite the difference once its been installed, I'm just naively hoping to find all of the original connections still in place to hook it all up. Thank you very much for this.

I'm hoping that this week I'll be cracking on with the ignition and carbs in anger so stay tuned for some updates. 

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