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allankelly1
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Posts: 488
Fuel tap
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October 30, 2020, 01:20:27 PM »
Hi all
Does anybody know if there is a repair kit to repair a fuel tank tap for the CB400F (m20 thread)
Mine does not fully shut off and £80 for a complete new tap from DSS seems a tad steep
Plenty of cheap m16 taps about on eBay but no m20 type?
Many thanks in advance
Best wishes Al
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Laverda Dave
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Posts: 3625
Health is wealth
Re: Fuel tap
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October 30, 2020, 01:24:40 PM »
DSS sells an o-ring repair kit for the fuel taps. It's two o-rings placed side by side as the full thickness o-ring is no longer available. I used them on my fuel tap and it cured the leak. Make sure you use some rubber lube on them though otherwise they bind making the tap very difficult to turn.
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allankelly1
SOHC Expert
Posts: 488
Re: Fuel tap
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Reply #2 on:
October 30, 2020, 01:28:31 PM »
Hi Dave
There no actual external leak from the tap but fuel is still passing the shut off valve to the carbs
I am reluctant to take apart just in case anything rubber fall apart but I think a seal like this needs replacing?
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McCabe-Thiele (Ted)
Grogu
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Re: Fuel tap
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October 30, 2020, 01:32:34 PM »
I had the repair kit from DS but retained the original large O ring as I wasn't keen on putting two O rings in. If the tap is leaking externally by the lever you pretty much have to use the two rings. I cleaned all the staining off the plastic centre part - so far it hasn't leaked. There are two O rings in the kit as the ones supplied are too thin. It's a shame they are not supplied with one ring the right size. My tank filter was in shreds so it was worth the cost.
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Honda CB400NA Superdream (current money puddle)
Honda CB500 K1 (second money pit)
https://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,28541.0.html
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
Link to my full restoration
http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
This is a neat 500 restoration in the USA.
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151576.msg1731556.html#msg1731556
allankelly1
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Posts: 488
Re: Fuel tap
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Reply #4 on:
October 30, 2020, 01:36:12 PM »
Hi all
Thanks for the info so far
Ok as I read it there are just two orings that will require replacing and not a big rubber disc with holes in?
Is that correct
Many thanks. In advance Al
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Laverda Dave
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Re: Fuel tap
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October 30, 2020, 01:41:29 PM »
If the rubber disc is ripped or damaged my guess is it will have to be replaced. I dont know if you can get these as a seperate item? You could try making one from the correct thickness of Viton sheet but I think the original has a moulded lip on the edge. I would try the new O-Ring(s) first as it's a cheap and easy fix to do.
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1977 Rickman Honda CR750
1999 Honda VFR 800FX
1955 750 Dresda Triton
1978 Moto Morini 350 Sport
1978 Honda CB400/4 'The Flying Banana'
1982 Laverda 120 Jota
2020 Royal Enfield Interceptor 650
1990 Honda VFR400R NC30
McCabe-Thiele (Ted)
Grogu
Posts: 8622
Re: Fuel tap
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Reply #6 on:
October 30, 2020, 04:41:35 PM »
The kit I bought from DS consisted of strainer, large rubber bit with holes as post plus 2 O rings and the connector. I used my original connector as it was brass rather than plated steel.
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Honda CB400NA Superdream (current money puddle)
Honda CB500 K1 (second money pit)
https://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,28541.0.html
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
Link to my full restoration
http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
This is a neat 500 restoration in the USA.
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151576.msg1731556.html#msg1731556
AndyD
SOHC Expert
Posts: 352
Re: Fuel tap
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Reply #7 on:
October 31, 2020, 09:06:19 AM »
Al,
I had lots of trouble trying to find a tap for the M20 size fitting on my 400 tank - the old tap was a bit knackered and thought I'd quickly get a new one and play with restoring the original at leisure.
In the end got one from 4into1 in the US which so far seems fine - total cost was around £38 including postage and customs charges.
Still bemused that all the taps I could find are M16 yet I've got three 400 tanks all of which have the M20 size.
Cheers,
Andy
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allankelly1
SOHC Expert
Posts: 488
Re: Fuel tap
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Reply #8 on:
October 31, 2020, 09:24:28 AM »
Hi Andy
Thanks for the info
I will look into that site and also see what other goodies they do as due to fully restore my tank next with a paint job and a new cap so a new tap would finish all off
Again many thanks Al
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allankelly1
SOHC Expert
Posts: 488
Re: Fuel tap
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October 31, 2020, 09:27:41 AM »
Sorted
Many thanks again Andy
Best wishes Al
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rosco
SOHC Member
Posts: 136
Re: Fuel tap
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Reply #10 on:
October 31, 2020, 09:29:47 AM »
Hi Al 400 four bits is showing a fuel tap for sale Don't know its condition or age but could be worth a phone call/e mail?
Ross
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allankelly1
SOHC Expert
Posts: 488
Fuel tap
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Reply #11 on:
October 31, 2020, 09:36:38 AM »
Hi all
All sorted and thank you to everyone for their help
Bought a locking cap too and total including shipping (£75.70) is less than as a genuine tap from DSS so happy days
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Last Edit: October 31, 2020, 09:47:06 AM by allankelly1
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McCabe-Thiele (Ted)
Grogu
Posts: 8622
Re: Fuel tap
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Reply #12 on:
October 31, 2020, 12:29:53 PM »
The fuel tap looks like the rivetted type not like the screwed together original. Still not expensive if it fits OK - I thought these were listed on E-bay from a UK supplier they are probably the smaller thread ones.
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Last Edit: October 31, 2020, 12:48:58 PM by Macabethiele
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Honda CB400NA Superdream (current money puddle)
Honda CB500 K1 (second money pit)
https://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,28541.0.html
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
Link to my full restoration
http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
This is a neat 500 restoration in the USA.
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151576.msg1731556.html#msg1731556
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