"O" Ring and Seals list for CB400F Eng/trans - Is there a full list please ?

[400 Cafe Racer]

Hi guys, I am looking and wondering if there is a reference list to cover all the "O" rings and seals needed for the Engine Trans unit. I am trying not to make assumptions about what is included/ excluded in gasket sets etc, although there is a sealed bag full of "O" rings.

From all the rebuilds you have carried out between you, there is lot of experience of  Which things are included AND Which things need to be ordered seperately. There are odd things like the starter motor O ring etc I wanted to include

The bike I purchase recently has a few minor oil leaks to deal with, so I have decide to do a full strip and inspection so I know the full internal condition.

To have this info available woud be most helpful prior to ordering, also knowing best where they can be obtained and  which brands are reliable and those to avoid.

Cheers 

Dennis

[Deano400]

Hi Dennis, not sure how comprehensive it is but something I put together a while back for the engine. Anyone feel free to add amend as I can't say it's 100%.

A2   265   91201-300-003   Crank oil seal 30x42x8                      1
B1   45   14401-333-003   Camchain                                               1
B2   266   91201-323-005   Crank oil seal 30x45x8                      1
C1   19   12251-377-000   Head gasket                                       1
C1   22   12329-333-010   Breather gasket                                       1
C1   24   12391-333-000   Rocker gasket                                       1
C1   30   12905-333-000   Oil pipe holder                                       2
C1   242   90442-377-000   Seal Washer 18od x 2.2 x 8mm thread       2
C1   267   91201-324-010   Tacho oil seal 6.5x14.5x7                       1
C1   275   91301-333-000   R oil way O-ring 7 x 1.7                       1
C1   277   91302-001-020   Tappet cover O-ring 30.8 x 3               8
C2   14   12191-377-000   Base gasket                                       1
C2   31   12909-333-000   Cylinder stud seal                               2
C2   32   12910-333-000   Oil orifice seal                                       2
C2   276   91301-377-000   Cylinder base O-ring 55.5 x 2               4
D1   107   16173-253-004   Carb insulator O-ring 27 x 2.4               4
D2   18   12209-333-005   Valve stem seal                                       4
D2   280   91305-333-000   L oil way O-ring 5 x 1.7                       1
E1   8   11394-377-000   Clutch gasket                                       1
E1   238   90431-292-000   Washer.Lock 16mm                               1
E1   268   91202-216-005   Clutch oil seal 14x24x5                       1
E1   269   91204-259-000   Kick start oil seal 16x28x7                       1
F1   274   91301-283-005   Clutch Push Rod O-ring 5 x 2.4               1
F2   9   11398-333-020   Sump gasket                                       1
F2   282   91314-220-000   F main oil way O-ring 16.4 x 2.4               1
F2   283   91315-044-000   R main oil way O-ring 19.4 x 2.8               1
F2   286   91319-300-000   L main oil way O-ring 13 x 2.5               1
F2   287   91329-590-003   Sump filter O-ring 16.5 x 2.8               1
G2   12   11691-333-000   Alternator gasket                               1
G2   139   23114-323-000   Primary drive damper                               8
G2   140   23131-323-000   Primary chain                                       1
G2   239   90433-283-000   Washer.Lock 6mm                               1
H1   213   35751-333-003   Neutral switch O-ring 11.2 x 1.8         1
H1   240   90435-333-000   Washer.Lock 8mm                               1
H1   270   91205-333-005   Drive shaft oil seal 34x52x13.5x15.5       1
H1   271   91206-286-005   Gear change oil seal 14x28x7               1
H2   215   41123-516-00   Oil pump O-ring 63 x 2.5                       1
H2   272   91207-333-000   Mainshaft oil seal 34x9                       1
H2   278   91302-044-010   Oil Pump O-ring 6.9 x 1.5                       2
H2   279   91302-377-000   Oil Pump O-ring 15 x 2.5                       2

[Deano400]

G2  281  91309-300-000    Starter Motor O-ring   24.4 x 3.1                           1

[Laverda Dave]

Nurse Julie has o-ring kits for the oil pump. She may have others, best to send her a PM.

[smoothoperator]

That is a really useful list, thanks Deano.

[Deano400]

Some frame parts for the list. Once again please check for completeness.

2B   397   91252-300-003   DUST SEAL, 22X36X8                           1
2M   398   91253-286-013   DUST SEAL, 30X45X9.5                   1
2D   399   91255-369-000   OIL SEAL, 33X46X10.5                   2
2B   400   91259-333-000   O-RING, 9.5X1.7                           2
1D   476   94608-50000   O-RING, 23X2.8                                   2
2A   499   96140-63020-10   BEARING, RADIAL BALL, 6302   2
2L   500   96140-63030-10   BEARING, RADIAL BALL, 6303   1
2M   501   96140-63040-10   BEARING, RADIAL BALL, 6304   1

[400 Cafe Racer]

Hi Deano400, and Laverda Dave

Wow, thats a very comprehensive list of "O" rings, seals and bearings. Thanks.

Regarding the Engine/Trans unit only, is it possible from your research to tease out and say for instance:

1. Which items are included in the Full Engine Gasket Set.

2. Which items are ordered in individual "other kits". (Oil pump kit as Laverda Dave mentioned)

3. Which items identified not available in kit form and only on individual order. ?

Many thanks   

Dennis

[Deano400]

Normal gasket set content.
C1   19   12251-377-000   Head gasket                           1
C1   22   12329-333-010   Breather gasket                           1
C1   24   12391-333-000   Rocker gasket                           1
C1   275   91301-333-000   R oil way O-ring 7 x 1.7           1
C1   277   91302-001-020   Tappet cover O-ring 30.8 x 3   8
C2   14   12191-377-000   Base gasket                            1
C2   31   12909-333-000   Cylinder stud seal                    2
C2   32   12910-333-000   Oil orifice seal                           2
C2   276   91301-377-000   Cylinder base O-ring 55.5 x 2   4
D1   107   16173-253-004   Carb insulator O-ring 27 x 2.4   4
D2   18   12209-333-005   Valve stem seal                           4
D2   280   91305-333-000   L oil way O-ring 5 x 1.7           1
E1   8   11394-377-000   Clutch gasket                            1
F2   9   11398-333-020   Sump gasket                            1
G2   12   11691-333-000   Alternator gasket                    1

[Deano400]

DSS oil seal kit.
A2   265   91201-300-003   Crank oil seal 30x42x8   1
B2   266   91201-323-005   Crank oil seal 30x45x8   1
C1   267   91201-324-010   Tacho oil seal 6.5x14.5x7   1
E1   268   91202-216-005   Clutch oil seal 14x24x5   1
E1   269   91204-259-000   Kick start oil seal 16x28x7   1
H1   270   91205-333-005   Drive shaft oil seal 34x52x13.5x15.5   1
H1   271   91206-286-005   Gear change oil seal 14x28x7   1
H2   272   91207-333-000   Mainshaft oil seal 34x9   1

[Deano400]

Julie's oil pump kit plus she includes additional seals not identified in the Honda parts list.
H2   215   41123-516-00   Oil pump O-ring 63 x 2.5   1
H2   278   91302-044-010   Oil Pump O-ring 6.9 x 1.5   2
H2   279   91302-377-000   Oil Pump O-ring 15 x 2.5   2

[400 Cafe Racer]

Hey Deano, thanks - thats brill 

It makes the job so much easier to know these things in adavance.

Am I right in assuming  that the starter motor "O" ring is a seperate item, would you know if Nurse Julie can supply this as well. ?

Thanks for all your help. 

Dennis

[Deano400]

Yes she does. Have a look at her Ebay items. If there's anything there that you need PM her and she will sort you out.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/m.html?_ssn=julies9731&_osacat=0&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEFSXS%3AMESOI&_odkw=&_from=R40&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313&_nkw=CB400&_sacat=0

[400 Cafe Racer]

Thanks again Deano,

I didn't know Nurse Julie had a site, so that will be very useful for the future.

This engine was fully stripped to rebuild by PO some 3,000 miles/4 years ago so not expecting too much hastle with bolts etc. I think at the time some seals and "O" ring changes were overlooked, hence my strip down now.

I'm part way into the strip down now, Seat and Tank off, Carbs and coils off, Breather cover and tappet covers off, tappets slackened to reduce cover stress when camshaft cover is removed. Side tracked to remove oil filter and drain sump, but found the Oil filter centre bolt will not shift. I've tried using a 6 sided socket and extension bar, plus tapping the wrench while under load without result.  Just ordered a 12mm SnapOn Flank Drive socket to use on my air driven impact wrench and considering whether to warm the area slightly before impacting.

Many thanks

Dennis