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haynes66:
realistically though, the electrical infrastructure is years away, regardless of the governments aims to go electric by a certain deadline.  on top of that, people are only starting to realise that there will a charge for electric car use at some point, as the loss of car tax is huge and it has to come from somewhere. (i think we've well and truly hijacked this thread!)

Oddjob:
It's my thread and I don't mind, it's all hypothetical anyway, no one really knows which way it will go.

I think they'll convert old petrol stations to electric charging points with quick chargers etc. For 5 mins charge you can get around 30 miles even today so you spend 5 mins going to the toilet, shopping in the shop, it's good business, you've got your customers trapped for a certain amount of time.

royhall:

--- Quote from: Arch stanton on February 19, 2022, 09:21:13 AM ---In response to Oddjob.
My concern is. When everything is electric. What would be the point of fuel stations?
Who would be willing to produce petrol, for such a niche market?
Would we have to go back to the beginning, and go to the Chemist,s,
For a gallon of "Motoring Spirit"? And at what price?
Sean.

--- End quote ---
There will be a great many millions of petrol/diesel vehicles on the road for many many years past the EV cut off due to silly high prices and lack of chargers. Not to mention the infrastructure upgrades required to allow every home to have a fast charger, they haven't even mentioned that yet. Without a fast charger your trickle charger will take about 16 hours to charge your car. Now if only there was some sort of liquid you could hold in a tank and refill when required. I may be on to something here.

Sesman:
Smart grid will address many infrastructure concerns. Housing stock average load demand at peak times is accounted for at around 2.5kW to 3kW per dwelling only. The system distributors experience an average daily demand of a little under 300w per dwelling….a load factor of around 10:1. Smart grid knows this and will only permit charging outside peak demand times, thus making better, continuous use of the existing infrastructure and thus increasing generation and utilisation efficiency. The bigger problem will be maintenance and an increase in mean time between failure periods, which is where investment will be required.

I’m afraid the die is cast and the world is going electric and fast….it has to.

royhall:
Pretty much means your average working man/woman is walking or on the bus. EV is not the answer for the masses.

So far there's just 1 public charger for every 35 vehicles on the road and that figure worsens every month. For home fast charging you require either 32 or 50 amps, if everyone charges their car on arriving home from work (and they will) that's going to melt the substation. It's okay putting chargers into new properties they can install the correct gear, but what about older properties, you would have to dig up every road in the nation to supply the required power. I am aware it's got to happen for the sake of global warming, but so far there's nothing but lip service to it. No, the cut off point will keep getting extended.

They will still be selling ICE vehicles until late 2020's and with the life of a vehicle around 20 years that's a long time before petrol and diesel are gone. And remember, the target for net zero was originally 2050 in line with all other countries in the world, only Boris's big ambition brought that down. I would suggest he needs to get on with it quickly.

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