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What's the next part where the price will go through the roof?
Laverda Dave:
It is a fact there is not enough raw materials world wide to make the number of batteries required just for the UK to go electric by 2030 or 2035 depending what report you read. In addition, if we go electric as planned every petrol station will have to be turned into the size of a football pitch full of chargers. And then there's the people who live in flats in large towns and cities. Housing developers now are only interested in building blocks of flats to maximise their returns. London is full of new developments of flats, they are fitting them into every tiny corner of land. How are these people going to charge their vehicles (and park them). There is a government policy to change the way we travel and personal transport is at the bottom of the list.
royhall:
There will be plenty of petrol for the life of our classic bikes but it will be expensive and full of crap.
Sesman:
The sub station won’t melt I’m afraid. Although you might plug your car in when you return home at tea time, the smart grid won’t let you charge until much later. Most commutes are less than 100miles round trip, so charge replenishment time won’t be a problem either. As for raw materials and ‘production capacity’ you may revise your opinions when you see the number of industrial scale battery plants being built. I know cos I’m involved in building them.
Relatively at least, Fossil fuel is finished, with fission coming a close second. We are going electric and it’s coming to you soon. As for charging points, take a look at the New Building Regulations Part L. And yes, there will be a work revolution and large scale office space will become a thing of the past. And yes, public transportation will also be reenergised, for those who choose to travel.
royhall:
Ahh Utopia land. It's actually the land of fairy tales. The reality does not match the hype. So now we have to charge the car when Big Brother dictates it's okay, that's yet another nail in the plans coffin.
None of what is being said is actually achievable at all let alone in the next 8 years. Sorry to rain on the parade but this is being pushed by politicians so it just wont happen (it should happen, and it needs to happen) but it just wont. There's neither the will to change nor the vast sums of money required to make it happen.
The only person I know that actually wants an EV wants a Tesla for the performance, all the rest say they wouldn't buy one in a lifetime, all planning on keeping what they have until it drops. If all the plans come to together it still wont be enough to stop GW, one large office block takes less to heat that 500 individual homes. Power use went through the roof during the work from home period of the pandemic. More GW. When they admit the problem is population explosion then they can try and deal with it. Genocide anyone? ;D
McCabe-Thiele (Ted):
I think all MPs, civil servans, then local councilors should be forced to use electric cars paid for by themselves (no grants) then be made to trial heat pumps before they ban gas boilers. If that eventually works out then all Political Party Members then finally the public. A nice considered roll out.
I think I am right that they tried heating the Albert Hall with heat pumps about a hundred years ago and it did not work - using the Thames as the ground heat source - seem to think it came up during a Thermodynamics lecture.
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