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Re: Project CB350F
« Reply #75 on: May 11, 2024, 12:01:10 PM »
No its plain on the other side. If I mount it the other way round it would be slightly out of line and the peg wouldn't be restrained when tightening or undoing its nut.
David Silver have 50 on order and will let me know the ETA on Monday. On the photo from the DS site you can see how the peg would sit correctly on the sprocket. Still got a lots to be getting on with so I can wait.

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Re: Project CB350F
« Reply #76 on: May 16, 2024, 08:03:00 PM »
Finally got the correct rear sprocket, tried all the usual places but I had overlooked Honda Classics. Looking for a stainless f/brake caliper piston and a couple of other items I typed CB350f in the site search bar and there amongst the parts was the sprocket. Ordered online Tuesday evening, delivered Thursday morning and the pegs fit correctly.

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I’ve been checking the placement of the various washers on the brake stay arm. The rubber washer had previously been fitted (apparently incorrectly) on the outside of the stay instead of next to the brake plate. Confusingly the owners manual shows it on the outside.

Also I initially thought the parts diagram of the stay at the swing arm was wrong - shouldered bolt, torque arm, 10mm spring washer, 8mm plain washer then nut. However I suppose this allows some movement of the arm whilst retaining some tension.
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Re: Project CB350F
« Reply #77 on: May 16, 2024, 08:15:29 PM »
You should find the spring washer will fit over the plain shank of the bolt but the plain washer will not

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Re: Project CB350F
« Reply #78 on: May 21, 2024, 09:51:34 PM »
I’ve been scratching my head over the ignition timing. Just couldn’t make sense of it, going round in circles trying to find what I’d done wrong. Almost like the advancer was 180 degrees out, but didn’t think it could be as there’s a locating peg. Then a quick search on here confirmed that the cam could be reassembled incorrectly. Images of the advancer online show the mark on the rim facing the semi circular alignment notch whereas mine faces away.

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My efforts to free up the original f/brake master cylinder, which was gummed up and is still stuck fast, have so far been unsuccessful. I’ve cleaned it externally and soaked it in penetrating oil but had no joy. As I’m unsure whether it will be too badly corroded if I do eventually manage to free it I got a good master cylinder without internals from 400fourbits and used the repair kit I got for the original.

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I’m still searching for a lower German or French handlebars so I’m reluctant to get throttle cables and the top brake hose until I’ve exhausted all avenues and know which bars I’ll be using.
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Re: Project CB350F
« Reply #79 on: July 02, 2024, 04:49:25 PM »
Progress has been slow and but steady due to a number of short breaks away and family commitments. However all chrome plating has now been completed by Ashford. In the end I decided to have the front mudguard replated rather than buy an aftermarket replacement. Expensive but very impressed with the finish and customer service.

I’ve just collected my tank, panels and shrouds from Rapier paintwork who have done a great job. Unfortunately the photos don’t accurately reproduce the blue black metallic finish which I’m very happy with. Can’t help but think of a Velocette when I look at the tank. I’ve lifted the photo showing all the parts from Rapiers Facebook page.

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I’ve tried to rescue the side panel emblems but I’m disappointed with the results. After stripping the old paint I used Humbrol model paints and a very fine brush to drop the enamel in. The emblems have had a hard life and the raised chrome edges are scuffed and rough which traps paint and is difficult to wipe off making it hard to get a clean edge. They will do for the time being but I’ll probably revisit them later.

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The carbs just need checking on the bench for leaks before I fit them to the bike. They’ve taken up some time due to my indecision as after cleaning, reassembling and bench synching them I thought better about using the original throttle shaft which had some corrosion. Although it cleaned up reasonably well there were some deep pits and it would have been susceptible to further corrosion so I replaced it with a stainless steel version from Max. Then while checking the bench synch once again, the quadrant split into two so I had to remove and re-rivet it.

The seat has cleaned up well. The base was surprisingly corrosion free but was scuffed/scratched in a few places and smartened up with some paint. I had a go at applying some aluminium foil tape to the trim which looked promising on the straight sections but was a mess on the corners. So after masking I painted the plastic trim with aluminium finish paint with a further coat of clear lacquer which turned out much better than I expected. However it was only when I put the seat on the bike that I discovered the seat base was slightly twisted and not only that the Honda logo is out of alignment which is all too obvious in the photo - looks awful! It’s something I didn’t notice when I stripped the bike.

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The finish line is in sight now and I need to make a decision about the exhaust system. The Delkavic four into one looks ok and the price seems reasonable. The megaphone silencer looks more period and appropriate than the straight option but I can’t say that either are what I had in mind.
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Re: Project CB350F
« Reply #80 on: July 02, 2024, 05:13:58 PM »
The paintwork is beautiful.  Lovely job. 👍
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Re: Project CB350F
« Reply #81 on: July 02, 2024, 05:21:54 PM »
The paint looks excellent Alan,
As you say - Velo like!  You certainly seem to be on the home straight now, very encouraging when it's reassembly and no more cleaning or removing obstinate bolts! 
I've been out on mine recently but had an issue with what appeared to be fuel starvation when asking for a bit more gas on uphill bits.  Hopefully found the culprit with a lot of fine particles on the top of that really fine brass filter screen in the tap bowl and a small piece of leaf (how the hell did that get in there?) when I drained and flushed the tank.  Glad I didn't go to the Crieff meeting on it.
Might get out in the next day or so to see if I've cracked it!

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Re: Project CB350F
« Reply #82 on: July 02, 2024, 05:58:58 PM »
Remove the paint on the seat with nail varnish remover and re do with a stencil from Piki (I may have a spare here come to think of it) and TRG spray vinyl paint.
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Re: Project CB350F
« Reply #83 on: July 02, 2024, 06:03:35 PM »
I wondered if there was solvent which would remove it. I’ll try give it a go.


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Re: Project CB350F
« Reply #84 on: July 02, 2024, 09:46:52 PM »
The paintwork looks very good, not long to go now👍.
I painted the HONDA logo on the back of my new seat today using the stencil and the TRG paint and it's an absolute mess! The paint has bleed into the grain of the vinyl over the whole seat, I'm going to have to use a bottle of varnish remover to get it off. I really don't think I'll bother trying to paint it again (I don't have another stencil for starters) and the chances are it will do the same again. I went over the stencil with a roller to make sure it was properly stuck down but it obviously can't get into the grain of the vinyl to seal it and the paint being thin bleeds into it.
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Re: Project CB350F
« Reply #85 on: July 02, 2024, 09:55:50 PM »
I’m thinking the same and I’ll just remove the logo. That will be a vast improvement on is own. I’m not confident that I could do it without the edges bleeding.


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Re: Project CB350F
« Reply #86 on: July 02, 2024, 10:16:01 PM »
The paintwork looks very good, not long to go now👍.
I painted the HONDA logo on the back of my new seat today using the stencil and the TRG paint and it's an absolute mess! The paint has bleed into the grain of the vinyl over the whole seat, I'm going to have to use a bottle of varnish remover to get it off. I really don't think I'll bother trying to paint it again (I don't have another stencil for starters) and the chances are it will do the same again. I went over the stencil with a roller to make sure it was properly stuck down but it obviously can't get into the grain of the vinyl to seal it and the paint being thin bleeds into it.

I have a spare stencil if you want to try again Dave. Pretty sure Julie has a technique for applying the dye.
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Re: Project CB350F
« Reply #87 on: July 02, 2024, 10:35:11 PM »
Thanks Ash. Is it the smaller stencil? Piki sent me two stencils, one short and one slightly longer. When I compared them to my original honda seat it was the smaller one I needed to use.
Let me know the cost and I'll use PayPal F&F.
If Julie knows of a method to avoid paint bleeding that would be great. I thought all was well as I was leaving the paint for 30 minutes between coats but as it is very thin it took four coats. It wasn't until I peeled the stencil off the mess was revealed :-[
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Re: Project CB350F
« Reply #88 on: July 02, 2024, 10:41:55 PM »
Don't look too closely!
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Re: Project CB350F
« Reply #89 on: July 02, 2024, 11:03:18 PM »
Thanks Ash. Is it the smaller stencil? Piki sent me two stencils, one short and one slightly longer. When I compared them to my original honda seat it was the smaller one I needed to use.
Let me know the cost and I'll use PayPal F&F.
If Julie knows of a method to avoid paint bleeding that would be great. I thought all was well as I was leaving the paint for 30 minutes between coats but as it is very thin it took four coats. It wasn't until I peeled the stencil off the mess was revealed :-[

I need to check Dave (I have a Genuine NOS seat on my bike to compare with) ... These didn't come from Diego. If they area any good I will post free.
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