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Topic: CB550 refurb (Read 149574 times)
Sesman
SOHC Master
Posts: 2289
Re: CB550 refurb
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Reply #90 on:
October 14, 2024, 07:41:46 AM »
You do indeed, and I’d recommend renewing the seals. What I was very poorly alluding to was if you don’t have the special tool, leave the rotor on, split the cases then ease the rotor off with aid of a rubber hammer, applying judicious blows. Not ideal, but it works for me. You do need to be careful though as over enthusiastic blows will create problems. If in doubt I’d recommend buying or borrowing the rotor extractor tool.
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Johnny4428
SOHC Jedi
Posts: 2945
Re: CB550 refurb
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Reply #91 on:
October 14, 2024, 07:49:21 AM »
I have a universal puller might be able to do something with that, I also remember something about a car wheel stud being of size, maybe it was a commercial one? Important to protect crankshaft thread though.
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1952 Cymoto on Triumph bicycle.
1961 Matchless G3
1974 Honda CB550K1
1978 Honda CB550K3
1999 ST1100 Pan European 50th Anniversary.
1975,1984,1986 Honda C90’s
1973 Honda CB750K3
1977 Honda CB550 (almost)
Bryanj
Grogu
Posts: 12561
Re: CB550 refurb
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Reply #92 on:
October 14, 2024, 07:50:59 AM »
DO NOT use a 3 legged universal puller as you will wreck the rotor and crank
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Johnny4428
SOHC Jedi
Posts: 2945
Re: CB550 refurb
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Reply #93 on:
October 14, 2024, 08:15:21 AM »
No problem Bryan!
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1952 Cymoto on Triumph bicycle.
1961 Matchless G3
1974 Honda CB550K1
1978 Honda CB550K3
1999 ST1100 Pan European 50th Anniversary.
1975,1984,1986 Honda C90’s
1973 Honda CB750K3
1977 Honda CB550 (almost)
Johnny4428
SOHC Jedi
Posts: 2945
Re: CB550 refurb
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Reply #94 on:
October 14, 2024, 08:26:08 AM »
Just looked back on forum, car stud 16 x 1.5mm will do the job, or similar bolt.
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1952 Cymoto on Triumph bicycle.
1961 Matchless G3
1974 Honda CB550K1
1978 Honda CB550K3
1999 ST1100 Pan European 50th Anniversary.
1975,1984,1986 Honda C90’s
1973 Honda CB750K3
1977 Honda CB550 (almost)
Orcade-Ian
SOHC Master
Posts: 1361
Re: CB550 refurb
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Reply #95 on:
October 14, 2024, 10:00:55 AM »
Hi Johnny,
I can soon screw-cut a piece of bar for you to use as an extractor if you can't find one.
Ian
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1953 BSA Golden Flash 650 - still a basket case
1960 Norton Model 50 Featherbed 350
1960 Ducati Elite 200 (nearing completion)
1972 Honda CB 350/4
1975 Honda CB 550/4 F1
1976 Honda CB 400/4 F1
2020 Honda C125 Super Cub
2026 Honda ADV 350
Johnny4428
SOHC Jedi
Posts: 2945
Re: CB550 refurb
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Reply #96 on:
October 14, 2024, 12:49:44 PM »
Ta much Ian! Forever helpful as usual! I will have a rake about to see what I find and let you know.
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1952 Cymoto on Triumph bicycle.
1961 Matchless G3
1974 Honda CB550K1
1978 Honda CB550K3
1999 ST1100 Pan European 50th Anniversary.
1975,1984,1986 Honda C90’s
1973 Honda CB750K3
1977 Honda CB550 (almost)
Johnny4428
SOHC Jedi
Posts: 2945
Re: CB550 refurb
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Reply #97 on:
October 14, 2024, 02:59:13 PM »
No hassle , she’s off!
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1952 Cymoto on Triumph bicycle.
1961 Matchless G3
1974 Honda CB550K1
1978 Honda CB550K3
1999 ST1100 Pan European 50th Anniversary.
1975,1984,1986 Honda C90’s
1973 Honda CB750K3
1977 Honda CB550 (almost)
Johnny4428
SOHC Jedi
Posts: 2945
Re: CB550 refurb
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Reply #98 on:
October 18, 2024, 10:58:16 PM »
Nice pair!
this is looking like a ground up restoration. Wheels done, new spokes rims,bearings and new tyres, forks done, cleaned buffed and new seals fitted. Awaiting spares for engine to allow progress to next stage.
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1952 Cymoto on Triumph bicycle.
1961 Matchless G3
1974 Honda CB550K1
1978 Honda CB550K3
1999 ST1100 Pan European 50th Anniversary.
1975,1984,1986 Honda C90’s
1973 Honda CB750K3
1977 Honda CB550 (almost)
McCabe-Thiele (Ted)
Grogu
Posts: 8621
Re: CB550 refurb
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Reply #99 on:
October 18, 2024, 11:17:02 PM »
Nice looking wheels Johnny you must be chuffed to bits with your lacing. l
Looking at your alternator rotor what are those symetrical marks on the steel has something been binding or is it how they are machined when new? I think mine had a similar appearance.
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Honda CB400NA Superdream (current money puddle)
Honda CB500 K1 (second money pit)
https://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,28541.0.html
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
Link to my full restoration
http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
This is a neat 500 restoration in the USA.
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151576.msg1731556.html#msg1731556
Johnny4428
SOHC Jedi
Posts: 2945
Re: CB550 refurb
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Reply #100 on:
October 18, 2024, 11:25:52 PM »
Think it’s machining marks Ted. Yes pleased with the wheels, although the spokes that were in the wheels were in remarkable condition although dull in colour. I have kept them with a view to replating them. But 30 odd quid for a replacement set from DS is it worth it?
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1952 Cymoto on Triumph bicycle.
1961 Matchless G3
1974 Honda CB550K1
1978 Honda CB550K3
1999 ST1100 Pan European 50th Anniversary.
1975,1984,1986 Honda C90’s
1973 Honda CB750K3
1977 Honda CB550 (almost)
Gromitdog
SOHC Member
Posts: 198
Re: CB550 refurb
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Reply #101 on:
October 20, 2024, 09:00:55 AM »
Hi Jonny 4428
I am a little behind you in doing the same thing with my engine I managed to strip the top half down and separated the head and bores, Then lower part of the upper engine casing, Can I just confirm the thread size is 16mm diameter x 1.5 thread that is required to remove the rotor? Unfortunate y compressor is not got enough power to undo the nut so will have to source anther way to crack the bolt off.
I look fwd to reading your progress I am a bit worried that this looks ever so complicated once you lift the upper engine casing off there's loads of moving parts that need carful stripping down and cleaning.
Can anyone suggest a good economical way for cleaning these parts I though of a cut open plastic drum and some petrol and just wash them in that .
Sorry I can seem to get pictures to load up on here even with steves help so annoying
Nige
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KEEPING IT SHINY SIDE UP IS ALWAYS A GOOD RESULT ON A RIDE OUT
Bryanj
Grogu
Posts: 12561
Re: CB550 refurb
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Reply #102 on:
October 20, 2024, 09:12:22 AM »
Having removed the primary shaft turn the bottom end over and remove lower case as everything will sit happily in upper case.
Can give you loads of tips on dissassembly and rebuild.
As to rotor bolt use decent socket with tee bar and whack/shock with hammer of decent size
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Laverda Dave
SOHC Jedi
Posts: 3625
Health is wealth
Re: CB550 refurb
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Reply #103 on:
October 20, 2024, 10:57:48 AM »
Looking good Johnny. You've noticed the trap set by a bike that requires a 'bit of a cosmetic refresh' ends up as restoration 😉. It's always difficult when replacing an old dog eared part with a new one and not to continue to replace other parts whilst you are there and winter is coming anyway etc, etc.......
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1977 Rickman Honda CR750
1999 Honda VFR 800FX
1955 750 Dresda Triton
1978 Moto Morini 350 Sport
1978 Honda CB400/4 'The Flying Banana'
1982 Laverda 120 Jota
2020 Royal Enfield Interceptor 650
1990 Honda VFR400R NC30
McCabe-Thiele (Ted)
Grogu
Posts: 8621
Re: CB550 refurb
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Reply #104 on:
October 20, 2024, 11:06:01 AM »
Not that it needs confirming, Bryan is correct, once you have the head & block off it's easy to work with the engine upside down,
I just made a sort of small wooden tressle to hold the casing. I use an old bakers oven tray underneath to hold any bolts or liquid spilling everywhere - large cat or dog tray works as well.
This photo is my high tech arrangement, I had some small extra bits of wood to use if needed as wedges. The casing did not sit on the head studs they were just clear of the base by about 1/3". The second photo was taken before I put some wooden packing in place.
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Heath Robinson
by
Macabe Thiele
, on Flickr
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casings before stripping paint
by
Macabe Thiele
, on Flickr
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Honda CB400NA Superdream (current money puddle)
Honda CB500 K1 (second money pit)
https://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,28541.0.html
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
Link to my full restoration
http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
This is a neat 500 restoration in the USA.
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151576.msg1731556.html#msg1731556
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