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Rear wheel spindle surface rust on the 400.
« on: September 13, 2024, 09:18:02 AM »
It's not a big deal but last winter there was a light dusting of surface corrosion on the rear wheel spindle that I did not have zinc plated or whatever it should have had when I did the rebuild in 2020-21.

I think I just sprayed it with ACF 50 that has reduced it but not completely stopped surface corossion. I guess I should have re-treated the shaft ends every 6 months.

It would be a bodge to put a lick of zinc paint over the ends so is there an easy/better solution that I'm missing?
My can of ACF 50 went AWOL.

Is XCP any better?





 
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Re: Rear wheel spindle surface rust on the 400.
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2024, 10:16:49 AM »
Ted,
If you clean off the oil and grease residues, then apply Rub N Buff (silver leaf) with a toothbrush it will protect it and with a light hand buff will look almost original.

Ian

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Re: Rear wheel spindle surface rust on the 400.
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2024, 11:42:20 AM »
Ted,
If you clean off the oil and grease residues, then apply Rub N Buff (silver leaf) with a toothbrush it will protect it and with a light hand buff will look almost original.

Ian

Thanks Ian I never thought of using that - even better I still have some!

Update  just tried some - it's amazing definitely a top tip Ian thanks for sharing! 8) 8) 8)


« Last Edit: September 13, 2024, 12:12:20 PM by McCabe-Thiele (Ted) »
Honda CB400NA Superdream (current money puddle)
Honda CB500 K1 (second money pit)
https://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,28541.0.html
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
Link to my full restoration http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
This is a neat 500 restoration in the USA.
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151576.msg1731556.html#msg1731556

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Re: Rear wheel spindle surface rust on the 400.
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2024, 12:20:31 PM »
Now I haven’t got into Rub n buff yet but I am now going to order some. Is there different flavours?😁
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Re: Rear wheel spindle surface rust on the 400.
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2024, 12:26:08 PM »
Now I haven’t got into Rub n buff yet but I am now going to order some. Is there different flavours?😁

The Passion Fruit is popular especially if you breath in the dust when buffing. ;D ;D ;D
Honda CB400NA Superdream (current money puddle)
Honda CB500 K1 (second money pit)
https://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,28541.0.html
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
Link to my full restoration http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
This is a neat 500 restoration in the USA.
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151576.msg1731556.html#msg1731556

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Re: Rear wheel spindle surface rust on the 400.
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2024, 12:29:14 PM »
Was going to say something about rubbing first but I think I’ll just leave it there! 🤣
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Re: Rear wheel spindle surface rust on the 400.
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2024, 01:01:29 PM »
As it contains carnauba wax you not only get a decent finish but it's got a bit of protection too.  Not difficult to re-apply as and when but it seems to last well, even over Orcadian winters!

30 year old scruffy BMW boxer gearbox, stripped, cleaned, new gear-change springs and seals, then the rub n buff!

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Re: Rear wheel spindle surface rust on the 400.
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2024, 03:25:26 PM »
That is looking bloody good that Ian! Nice job. Would have said they look freshly painted!
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Re: Rear wheel spindle surface rust on the 400.
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2024, 03:37:50 PM »
Presumably painted first or is the whole unit just Rub & Buff?
That will have taken a whole tube no?
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Honda CB500 K1 (second money pit)
https://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,28541.0.html
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
Link to my full restoration http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
This is a neat 500 restoration in the USA.
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Re: Rear wheel spindle surface rust on the 400.
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2024, 04:58:34 PM »
Ted,
no paint, rub n buff applied with a toothbrush direct to the bare cleaned alloy casting.  It goes a hell of a long way - would have used far less than one tenth of a tube on that box.  Just keep applying a VERY tiny amount to the brush and keep working it in.  It's fantastic on cast alloy as you can see.

Ian

Also did the front brake calipers on the XJ-S after stripping, pickling in Bilt hamber Deox-C then sprayed with their Electrox followed by rub n buff - it's bullshit in a tube!

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Re: Rear wheel spindle surface rust on the 400.
« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2024, 07:36:38 PM »
Have you sorted the ABS on the Jag yet Ian?
Honda CB400NA Superdream (current money puddle)
Honda CB500 K1 (second money pit)
https://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,28541.0.html
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
Link to my full restoration http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
This is a neat 500 restoration in the USA.
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151576.msg1731556.html#msg1731556

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Re: Rear wheel spindle surface rust on the 400.
« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2024, 08:52:12 PM »
Er, no!
I was disgusted with it, so shoved it into the corner of the workshop and left it there.  I will get 'around tuit' but I know it's a deep fault - more than just an ABS wheel sensor.  The ABS ecu doesn't even send blink codes.  A friend up here has broken an early face-lift car with most of the right bits - mine is one of the last 'pre face-lift models, so there are crossover parts.  I have done a bit more careful detailing meantime. It's an '89 V12 convertible with fewer than 20k on the clock, so worth at least 4s 6d.

Ian


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Re: Rear wheel spindle surface rust on the 400.
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2024, 10:17:49 PM »
I’ve never heard of this stuff before. I’m eagerly awaiting delivery now.

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Re: Rear wheel spindle surface rust on the 400.
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2024, 11:07:02 PM »
It might not be as bad as you fear.
Our R129 SL 500 that we have owned for 21 years developed a persistent misfire over the last two years.
I booked it in at the MB dealer where I worked for over 12 years having been quoted £120 for a diagnosis!
As I have a friend's & family discount I ended up with a bill for £48 to fix the fault. - a poor contact on a coil pack.
Honda CB400NA Superdream (current money puddle)
Honda CB500 K1 (second money pit)
https://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,28541.0.html
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
Link to my full restoration http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
This is a neat 500 restoration in the USA.
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151576.msg1731556.html#msg1731556

 

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