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Re: Honda CB400NA Superdream - new money puddle.
« Reply #240 on: March 26, 2025, 10:04:01 PM »
Today I manged to undo all 8 of the screws that hold the two carbs together, a couple were quite stubborn but came out eventually.Its a sort of upper and lower bracket arragement rather than a normal manifold. The two brackets have quite bad surface corrosion, they are a yellowish colour originally I think. Is this some sort of Zinc plated finish?

Is there an inexpensive way to improve the appearance, Gold coloured metallic paint perhaps if it can take the heat?
Honda CB400NA Superdream (current money puddle)
Honda CB500 K1 (second money pit)
https://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,28541.0.html
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
Link to my full restoration http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
This is a neat 500 restoration in the USA.
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Re: Honda CB400NA Superdream - new money puddle.
« Reply #241 on: March 26, 2025, 11:33:41 PM »
Ted, Without seeing it, hard to be sure. Probably zinc plated, yellow passivated.
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Re: Honda CB400NA Superdream - new money puddle.
« Reply #242 on: March 27, 2025, 08:39:56 AM »
Thanks, I couldn't remember the yellow passivated expression, I'll see if my local platers offer an affordable service.

« Last Edit: March 27, 2025, 08:43:40 AM by McCabe-Thiele (Ted) »
Honda CB400NA Superdream (current money puddle)
Honda CB500 K1 (second money pit)
https://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,28541.0.html
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
Link to my full restoration http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
This is a neat 500 restoration in the USA.
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151576.msg1731556.html#msg1731556

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Re: Honda CB400NA Superdream - new money puddle.
« Reply #243 on: March 27, 2025, 10:10:06 AM »
I collected these items for the TL125 yesterday Ted. £40 in total although I did clean them all up, de-burred and wire brushed everything before I took them in.
1976 Honda 400/4
1977 Rickman Honda CR750
1999 Honda VFR 800FX
1955 750 Dresda Triton
1978 Moto Morini 350 Sport
1978 Honda CB400/4 'The Flying Banana'
1982 Laverda 120 Jota
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1990 Honda VFR400R NC30

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Re: Honda CB400NA Superdream - new money puddle.
« Reply #244 on: March 27, 2025, 12:47:52 PM »
I think they left the yellow parts in the passivate a bit too long Dave, that's damn near gold, it's supposed to be a light yellow.
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Re: Honda CB400NA Superdream - new money puddle.
« Reply #245 on: March 27, 2025, 01:03:14 PM »
I think it's the flash on the camera Ken, its much darker than that in real life. The coil holder is a difficult part to plate apparently because its laminated the passivate drips out from between the laminations as its drying causing streaking (although Gary the plater has been in the ttrade for so long he doesn't get that problem).
1976 Honda 400/4
1977 Rickman Honda CR750
1999 Honda VFR 800FX
1955 750 Dresda Triton
1978 Moto Morini 350 Sport
1978 Honda CB400/4 'The Flying Banana'
1982 Laverda 120 Jota
2020 Royal Enfield Interceptor 650
1990 Honda VFR400R NC30

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Re: Honda CB400NA Superdream - new money puddle.
« Reply #246 on: April 11, 2025, 01:29:48 PM »
My M3 X5 x 0.5 mm brass washers arrived a couple of days ago, they are a perfect fit on my mixture screw fitting.



Honda CB400NA Superdream (current money puddle)
Honda CB500 K1 (second money pit)
https://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,28541.0.html
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
Link to my full restoration http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
This is a neat 500 restoration in the USA.
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151576.msg1731556.html#msg1731556

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Re: Honda CB400NA Superdream - new money puddle.
« Reply #247 on: April 27, 2025, 03:58:53 PM »
My brother came over to help me fit the rear drive hub circlip yesterday, I could not press the chain ring down and fit the big circlip on my own. What a difference an extra pair of hands made. He actually come over to help me move some wooden shelving out of the rear bedroom ready for the new boiler installation next month.

Today I thought I could just fit the new genuine Honda Dust seal on the rear hub on my own. I've almost had it fitted twice for it to let go again.

Is there a trick to this or is it a case of needing another pair of hands holding one side in place whilst the assistant pushes the other half of the inner lip over the oversize washer ?

I started with a dry dust seal, then using Red Rubber grease, I've been closest to success with the use of grease.
Honda CB400NA Superdream (current money puddle)
Honda CB500 K1 (second money pit)
https://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,28541.0.html
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
Link to my full restoration http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
This is a neat 500 restoration in the USA.
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151576.msg1731556.html#msg1731556

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Re: Honda CB400NA Superdream - new money puddle.
« Reply #248 on: April 27, 2025, 08:06:55 PM »
You need an army of trained spiders with mechanical aptitued Ted or just determination and luck

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Re: Honda CB400NA Superdream - new money puddle.
« Reply #249 on: April 28, 2025, 11:30:23 AM »
You need an army of trained spiders with mechanical aptitued Ted or just determination and luck

As I have fitted new drive cushions I suspect I will need an extra pair of hands to press down on the sprocket, this gives a slightly wider gap for the lip to fit over the washer. It will have to wait for my brother to help me.
Honda CB400NA Superdream (current money puddle)
Honda CB500 K1 (second money pit)
https://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,28541.0.html
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
Link to my full restoration http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
This is a neat 500 restoration in the USA.
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151576.msg1731556.html#msg1731556

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Re: Honda CB400NA Superdream - new money puddle.
« Reply #250 on: May 04, 2025, 04:21:16 PM »
Finally fitted the drive hub dust seal, two pairs of hands made the difference - thanks brother Paul. ( He isn't a Monk)

Both carbs now cleaned, assembled then attached to the pair of mounting brackets.

Next task will be fitting the rear wheel into the frame to check if the 500T swing arm is fully suitable. There will be an unknown drop in rear ride height
« Last Edit: May 04, 2025, 04:58:49 PM by McCabe-Thiele (Ted) »
Honda CB400NA Superdream (current money puddle)
Honda CB500 K1 (second money pit)
https://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,28541.0.html
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
Link to my full restoration http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
This is a neat 500 restoration in the USA.
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151576.msg1731556.html#msg1731556