Right-side foot peg annoying

[Mikep328]

My right side footpeg seems to regularly find itself in the vertical position so that when I start moving and try to place my foot on the peg my foot lands on "nothing."  I realize that peg has to shift to allow use of the kick start lever (someday I'll have to try kickstarting to see if it actually works!).

I could drill a hole/install a removable pin to keep the peg in the riding position but wondering if anyone has experienced this and found a less invasive solution.

[Nurse Julie]

It should stay down on its own as its got a spring loaded bit fitted to keep it down.
Number 399 on the fiché.

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[Mikep328]

 Yeah, I checked that earlier this year.  The spring is there but maybe it's not quite as strong as it was in 1976!  I'll try a new spring before taking any drastic action!

[Mikep328]

OR maybe I won't...DSS shows the spring not available. 

[Nurse Julie]

Yeah, I checked that earlier this year.  The spring is there but maybe it's not quite as strong as it was in 1976!  I'll try a new spring before taking any drastic action!

Is the spring located correctly because if it doesn't click past the little pin , it won't stay down.

[McCabe-Thiele (Ted)]

I have had the same issue with my 400 I'm roaring off from the lights with my right foot trying to land on fresh air, tricky if you need to use the rear brake.

My solution has been to put my left foot down when I stop, leaving my right foot on the rest with first gear selected and the clutch lever pulled in.

[Mikep328]

"Is the spring located correctly because if it doesn't click past the little pin , it won't stay down. "
I don't know, I'll check.  I know the spring is there but I didn't examine its position


"My solution has been to put my left foot down when I stop,"

I tried that yesterday but after many, Many, MANY, years of putting my right foot down, not my left...it feels "unstable."  I suppose I could get used to it.    But the "removable pin" is starting to sound like the best solution for someone set in their ways like me!!

[McCabe-Thiele (Ted)]

I can't remember any of my previous bikes having a folding foot rest  except at the rear.if they did they certainly were more flip resistant.

[ted_paper]

I have had the same issue with my 400 I'm roaring off from the lights with my right foot trying to land on fresh air, tricky if you need to use the rear brake.

I think we have done the '400 Leg Wave' at some stage...

[taysidedragon]

I can't remember any of my previous bikes having a folding foot rest  except at the rear.if they did they certainly were more flip resistant.

Most bikes with a kickstart lever have the footrest positioned so that the lever and footrest don't interfere with each other. Because the 400f has the footrests fairly well back the footrest has to hinge up so that you can use the kickstart lever. Not the best arrangement but it works as long as the spring locator is functional.
I've fitted lighter aluminium footrests on mine. I used a sprung ball to hold the footrest in the up position when needed, but didn't fit any locator in the normal down position. I wrongly thought that gravity and friction would keep the footrest down. ☹
The slightest contact with my leg or boot clicks the rest into the up position so I'm forever riding off with my right foot trying to push it back down again! A redesign job for the winter I think.

[TrickyMicky]

Just a latent point, but I was always taught, (many moons ago!!),  when ready to move off, engage 1st gear, then change feet so that your right foot is ready for the brake in case of a problem. Something to peruse over the obligatory Friday night beer(sssss). 

[taysidedragon]

Just a latent point, but I was always taught, (many moons ago!!),  when ready to move off, engage 1st gear, then change feet so that your right foot is ready for the brake in case of a problem. Something to peruse over the obligatory Friday night beer(sssss).

That's what I try to remember to do on the 400f but I've not made it easy for myself by having 2 bikes with gears/brakes on opposite sides! 🤣

[Orcade-Ian]

Mike,
That spring is double leaf - one part coil inside the other - is yours double?  Steve (400/4 parts) might have one.  The r/h footrest on both my 400/4 and 350/4 have the correct spring and they are very positive in their action and so far have never flicked up.  Think the 550F1 is the same system but not checked. I was also taught to swap feet to cover the brake after selecting the gear - IAM test in 1983!

Ian

[Mikep328]

Thanks, Ian, that's interesting!  My spring is not a double leaf!!!

[McCabe-Thiele (Ted)]

I think my spring has lost it's springiness.