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Offline McCabe-Thiele (Ted)

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I was thinking of fitting Black & Silver plates on my Superdream that is Historic for Taxation purposes.
Looks like it's not road legal to do that as it was first rgistered in August 1980, not a biggie my 400 has reflective plates.

I'm assuming the leiglation was amended as per this article.
.https://www.mgcc.co.uk/dvla-release-new-laws-on-black-and-white-number-plates/

« Last Edit: March 25, 2025, 05:26:11 PM by McCabe-Thiele (Ted) »
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Re: Looks like not all Historic Vehicles cab display B&W number plates.
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2025, 05:17:40 PM »
Cut off is vehicles manufactured or registered before Jan 1st 1980 and registered as Historic.
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Re: Looks like not all Historic Vehicles can display B&W number plates.
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2025, 05:28:59 PM »
Seems odd that they bothered to change the legislation at all Julie,iirc it was up to August 1973 previously.
« Last Edit: March 25, 2025, 05:38:17 PM by McCabe-Thiele (Ted) »
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Honda CB500 K1 (second money pit)
https://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,28541.0.html
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
Link to my full restoration http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
This is a neat 500 restoration in the USA.
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Re: Looks like not all Historic Vehicles can display B&W number plates.
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2025, 06:02:45 PM »
Maybe once they started using cast wheels the bikes started looking too modern!  ;D If you had a Triumph you could probably get away with it.   ;)
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Re: Looks like not all Historic Vehicles can display B&W number plates.
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2025, 06:23:26 PM »
Thats because the reflective plates ORIGINALY became mandatory in 1973 so the before 80 is a relaxation of the original law

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Re: Looks like not all Historic Vehicles can display B&W number plates.
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2025, 06:30:55 PM »
Seems odd that they bothered to change the legislation at all Julie,iirc it was up to August 1973 previously.
Seems it was an unintended consequence of legislation passed in 2015 that allowed all historic vehicles to display B&W. So they set a new date to prevent suddenly making existing historics post 1973 illegal when their owners had innocently displayed B&W. Even classic owners also did not like the 2015 change.
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Re: Looks like not all Historic Vehicles can display B&W number plates.
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2025, 07:05:09 PM »
I imagine that in 1973 there were a few 71/72 car owners quietly sporting the yellow and black plates to make their 'old' cars look new!
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Re: Looks like not all Historic Vehicles can display B&W number plates.
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2025, 07:20:35 PM »
There was a roaring trade in reflective plates back then even for 1960s cars. As a student I used to make the plates up on a Bluebells jig, all the letters were rivetted on. Didn't half make your palm sore if you had to make dozens.
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This is a neat 500 restoration in the USA.
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Re: Looks like not all Historic Vehicles can display B&W number plates.
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2025, 10:25:08 PM »
Never had a 70's bike with a black/silver plate. All were 1974 on, and all only ever had yellow reflective plates.
I could, I guess, put a black/silver plate on my F2, but that just wouldn't look right to me.
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Re: Looks like not all Historic Vehicles can display B&W number plates.
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2025, 10:52:03 PM »

I could, I guess, put a black/silver plate on my F2, but that just wouldn't look right to me.
Well, you'd be allowed to, but the introduction of cast or comstar wheels on the CB750Fs doesn't seem to sit well with the black plate to my eye.
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Re: Looks like not all Historic Vehicles can display B&W number plates.
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2025, 08:58:52 AM »
I imagine that in 1973 there were a few 71/72 car owners quietly sporting the yellow and black plates to make their 'old' cars look new!

My Land Rover was first registered in 1969 and it has it's original yellow and black rear plate with raised plastic letters, so yes, I think that was the norm even then.  It would have been optional but the new plates looked more modern I imagine.  I've left it on because it's part of the cars history and besides, it's job is still logging, fencing and transporting livestock, rather than being a hobby vehicle.

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Re: Looks like not all Historic Vehicles can display B&W number plates.
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2025, 09:09:59 AM »
Quite possible as reflective plates were introduced sometimes in 1967 as optional. They became mandatory in August 1973 on the M plate iirc.
Honda CB400NA Superdream (current money puddle)
Honda CB500 K1 (second money pit)
https://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,28541.0.html
Honda CB400 four super sport (first money pit)
Link to my full restoration http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,23291.0.html
This is a neat 500 restoration in the USA.
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151576.msg1731556.html#msg1731556

 

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